Worth the cpu upgrade AMD

[RichieAMD]

AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Six-Core


Is the processor I am looking at now with out upgrading my mobo. I am still new to the whole gaming pc thing I am still looking I look at reviews but I just want opinions. Will this boost up my fps with out upgrading my graphic cards.

My current set up

GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR x2 sli Mode
G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (PC3 10666)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz quad core
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI

 

[Fox5]

No.

3.8ghz - 3.4ghz = 400mhz

400/3400 = ~12%
That's not a very big performance boost, even if there were perfect scaling. You'd most likely see less of a boost than that.
Upgrading the graphics cards would likely give more of a boost, 1GB vram is rather low if you're gaming at high settings and resolution.

 

[mikeymikec]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=699

I realise you mentioned the FX-6200 not FX-6300, but I wouldn't have thought they would be far off.

Gaming performance is more difficult to compare because it depends on the exact scenario you use and the outcome you want (ie. do you want smoother FPS at a higher resolution, AA/AF, etc), but strictly speaking the FX's performance seems patchy against that PhII.

 

[SPBHM]

I think the 6300 makes a lot more sense if you want some newer AMD CPUs,

but since your MB cannot support AM3+, you should also consider some options from intel, the gain would be greater

 

[Eureka]

The 965 should overclock to 3.6-3.8 Ghz, and you'd see the same difference as dropping in a FX-6200.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Since you are looking at Zambezi, the FX-6300 Vishera comparison is invalid. Compare to the FX-8150 Zambezi for more accurate gaming results. Upgrading to the FX-6200 only makes sense if you overclock to ~4.5GHz. Upgrading to the FX-6300 makes more sense, especially if you overclock.

 

[Fox5]

His motherboard doesn't support the FX chips anyway.

 

[tweakboy]

AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Six-Core


Is the processor I am looking at now with out upgrading my mobo. I am still new to the whole gaming pc thing I am still looking I look at reviews but I just want opinions. Will this boost up my fps with out upgrading my graphic cards.

My current set up

GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR x2 sli Mode
G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (PC3 10666)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz quad core
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI

Its the GPU that does all the work, the CPU is plenty enough and if you expect to gain FPS then dont do this upgrade,, you will not notice a diff in fps or gaming etc. Games don't even know what to do with a quad core minus HT ,,,,,, so...ya your system is good. Your only going to gain couple FPS,, is it worth it ? Save up buy a SSD or upgrade your rig later on. gl

 

[AnonymouseUser]

His motherboard doesn't support the FX chips anyway.

It may not be officially supported, but it very well may work. It is a gamble, of course, but I have successfully installed a Phenom II X3 and Athlon II X4 in an Asus M2R32-MVP, so it's not impossible for unsupported CPUs to work.

 

[KingFatty]

Hey wait a minute, you should be very sure that your motherboard is actually not able to support Vishera.

I have an even older motherboard, the M4A890GTD, but it turns out ASUS released a BIOS update. I never thought it could even work, but sure enough, it works great. So I'm running FX-6300 on my motherboard that supposedly cannot physically accept the chip. ASUS website itself says my motherboard only supports AM3.

So, if my motherboard, that doesn't even have an AM3+ socket, can run Vishera using a BIOS update, you may be in luck too? Check your motherboard download section, see if there is any BIOS that is listed as beta, and see if there is any note or other info regarding support for bulldozer. That's what my motherboard says, that the bios supports bulldozer chips (no mention of Vishera/piledriver). But sure enough piledriver is fine, it's not limited to bulldozer.

But what game are you playing? Any chance it's a CPU-punishing game like Starcraft 2? Are you OK with overclocking? I really was impressed with the performance of an overclocked FX-6300 compared to my old overclocked Phenom II in Starcraft 2.

 

[SPBHM]

It may not be officially supported, but it very well may work. It is a gamble, of course, but I have successfully installed a Phenom II X3 and Athlon II X4 in an Asus M2R32-MVP, so it's not impossible for unsupported CPUs to work.

the CPU support list for your MB have many Phenoms listed, so it's no surprise Phenom II based CPUs can work (largely the same)


but his board have no support for any Bulldozer CPU, and there are quite a few changes required for a board to work with any FX compared to Phenoms (and it's not the case for Phenom vs Phenom II),

 

[mikeymikec]

The M4A89GTD PRO says that it supports AM3+ (Bulldozer anyway) with a BIOS update. I had no idea that it would handle Vishera processors though, that's good to know.

The sockets are pin compatible, otherwise it wouldn't work.

TBH I'm nervous of ASUS's CPU support lists at the moment because of this experience:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2309900&highlight=

I'm communicating with ASUS tech support about it at the moment. I'm not very hopeful, especially since their first questions were "please confirm the BIOS version" and the second question was "do you have a spare 3225 to test with", and now I'm waiting for Easter weekend to be over.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

the CPU support list for your MB have many Phenoms listed, so it's no surprise Phenom II based CPUs can work (largely the same)


but his board have no support for any Bulldozer CPU, and there are quite a few changes required for a board to work with any FX compared to Phenoms (and it's not the case for Phenom vs Phenom II),

The Phenom II X3 B73 and Athlon II X4 635 that I used are AM3 CPUs.

 

[SPBHM]

The Phenom II X3 B73 and Athlon II X4 635 that I used are AM3 CPUs.

any AM3 CPU is made to be compatible with AM2/AM2+
and it's basically the same as the am2/Am2+ only PII (920, 940), which is really, really close to the original Phenom...


if the MB supports Zambezi, I can't see any limitation to supporting Piledriver
and it's not that different to Agena vs Deneb...


but Deneb vs Zambezi are quite different.
if there is no reference of the bios supporting at least the 4100, I wouldn't count on the MB supporting any FX... as for the AM2 board with Phenoms, if there is any mention to supporting the 7750 or 8400 it was likely that the MB would also support a newer PIIs,

I don't think his board can support any FX.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It's time for a new motherboard + CPU, son. 3570K + nice Z77 board is typically consensus for gaming.

 

[RichieAMD]

It's time for a new motherboard + CPU, son. 3570K + nice Z77 board is typically consensus for gaming.

I think that is what I am going to go for a build for my build 4 core is still going to be a good way for a long time correct?