Worth stepping up to GTX 590 from GTX 580?

[PCJake]

Hey guys, I got an EVGA GTX 580 about two months ago and I noticed the GTX 590 was just released. I still have the opportunity to step up through EVGA and I wanted to hear everyone's opinions on the matter.

The benchmarks are encouraging, which is what made me interested in the idea, but my primary concern is micro stuttering. I've never run a dual-GPU setup before, I've always stuck with a single card. Do you think it could cause me problems (I always disable v-sync, if that makes any difference)?

 

[SlowSpyder]

I would not. It is the opinion of many people here, and else where, that the GTX590 is prone to failure. But, if you do, at least EVGA is the right GTX590 to get.

 

[thilanliyan]

FWIW, they may be prone to failing
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2152858

 

[tincart]

No.

 

[Arkadrel]

If I already had a 580 (which I dont, so its only hypothetically), I dont think Id upgrade to a 590.

Id be to scared of them dieing, and with newer drivers throttling them down to like 550mhz, they ll run slower than the cards tested by reviewers.

The 580's seem to be able to OC without blowing up, so thats what Id do... and not have to worry about mirco stutter or SLI profiles ect.

 

[Patmage]

I know my EVGA cards all carry a lifetime warranty. They even replaced an old 7950x2 with a 9800gt for me awhile back. Is this still the case with the step up plan? If so that probably has to be factored into the dying issue.

 

[OCGuy]

If you paid $500 for a 580, and can get a 590 for ~$220 more? Hell yes....

 

[Idontcare]

Hey guys, I got an EVGA GTX 580 about two months ago and I noticed the GTX 590 was just released. I still have the opportunity to step up through EVGA and I wanted to hear everyone's opinions on the matter.

The benchmarks are encouraging, which is what made me interested in the idea, but my primary concern is micro stuttering. I've never run a dual-GPU setup before, I've always stuck with a single card. Do you think it could cause me problems (I always disable v-sync, if that makes any difference)?

If you already have a GTX580 I would think upgrading to SLI GTX580 would be vastly superior in every way versus upgrading to a 590.

What is the cost delta for step-up to 590 versus buying another 580 and going SLI? (does your mobo and PSU support SLI?)

 

[SlowSpyder]

If you paid $500 for a 580, and can get a 590 for ~$220 more? Hell yes....

The new drivers will throttle it down providing less performance than reviews in some games. The cost is 44% addition to the $500 he spent already (assuming he spent $500). That's 44% more money for a card that, with new drivers and SLI scaling, may not even reach 50% more performance in plenty of situations when SLI works. And then we have the whole other issue of SLI not working (*cough* Dragon Age 2 *cough*) and the possibility of microstutter or other odd dual GPU issues.

Unless his GTX580 is just not cutting it, so the only other option is way more than the $220 additional cost (for another GTX580 or 6990 as an example) then I don't see how this makes sense. And that's not even considering that they seem to be fragile cards that are failing.

 

[pcm81]

IMHO 590s are a piece of crap. If you want ultra-high end get 2x 6990s or 2x NON-REFERENCE 590s when they come out, they will need water cooling and 3 8-pin connectors. If you want high end but not ultra high end get 2x 6970 or just buy a 2nd 580...

Since you have a 580, probably getting a 2nd 580 will be the cheapest route.

 

[PCJake]

If you already have a GTX580 I would think upgrading to SLI GTX580 would be vastly superior in every way versus upgrading to a 590.

What is the cost delta for step-up to 590 versus buying another 580 and going SLI? (does your mobo and PSU support SLI?)

Like others here have said, it would cost more than twice as much to get a second GTX 580 compared to stepping up to a GTX 590. But even ignoring the price I have to agree it is probably better to stick with the GTX 580, just because of the various issues with SLI and apparently with the GTX 590 itself. Thanks everyone!

 

[Arkadrel]

If you already have a GTX580 I would think upgrading to SLI GTX580 would be vastly superior in every way versus upgrading to a 590.

What is the cost delta for step-up to 590 versus buying another 580 and going SLI? (does your mobo and PSU support SLI?)

+1

Even with the added costs, of buying 2x 580, vs 1 upg option to a 590.
This is the option Id take if I was in your situation, and needed more power than 1x 580 can provide.

I think 2x 580's will be easier to sell, as well... when you finally do need to sell for another gen's of GPU upgrades.

 

[happy medium]

Hey guys, I got an EVGA GTX 580 about two months ago and I noticed the GTX 590 was just released. I still have the opportunity to step up through EVGA and I wanted to hear everyone's opinions on the matter.

I think its well worth it.
Every gtx590 from Evga with AR at the end of the model # has a lifetime warranty and covers overclocking.

I would grab a Evga gtx590 overvolt it to about 1 volt which should give you about 772 core and enjoy gtx580 sli performance for 250$ less. Personally I would give it 1.05v and run it at 800 core.

You really have nothing to lose, its covered.

If your worried, just keep and eye on this thread. It seems the Evga models are fine.

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/974902-nvidia-gtx-590-owners-club.html

 

[KIAman]

Does anybody have information about the overclocking headroom of the GTX 580? I'm assuming it OC's much better than the GTX 590 and can close the gap.

Unless they are offering the step up for less than $200, I would keep the GTX 580 and OC it.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Wait a couple more weeks until these issues are solved. Too many dead cards reports flying around. I would keep that GTX 580, it's the best card around IMO

 

[Kenmitch]

Never mind....Do to an xtra pain pill before therapy/wound care my brain didn't respond to what my eye's saw. Eyes saw proof brain thought poof!

 

[taserbro]

edited

Kenmitch, i think you might have copied the wrong links.
Being in the market for a dual gpu, I wanted to check some of those failures for myself but apparently none of the people you insinuated as owners of dead cards had a dead card. A few clicks later, i found you just copied a gtx 590 owners' list but couldn't find a similar list of failed card owners in the same forum. Do you have a correct link?

edit: no worries mate.

 

[Kenmitch]

Kenmitch, i think you might have copied the wrong links. Being in the market for a dual gpu, I wanted to check some of those failures for myself but apparently none of the people you insinuated as owners of dead cards had a dead card. A few clicks later, i found you just copied a gtx 590 owners' list but couldn't find a similar list of failed card owners in the same forum. Do you have a correct link?

Oops!...Well I guess your right about that. Had to go to therapy/wound treatment for my hand today and popped an xtra pain pill Guess my eyes saw proof and my brain read poof!

 

[Keysplayr]

Oops!...Well I guess your right about that. Had to go to therapy/wound treatment for my hand today and popped an xtra pain pill Guess my eyes saw proof and my brain read poof!

I hope you feel better, but do try not to take more pain pills and then post again. J/K. Have a blast.

 

[Kenmitch]

I hope you feel better, but do try not to take more pain pills and then post again. J/K. Have a blast.

But, but, but....In defense for myself it is my mouse hand

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Just get another 580. But what's your native btw

 

[Petey!]

I'm pretty sure you CAN'T step up to a 590 from a 580; don't think they're eligible.

Dual GPU cards are almost always full of fail, AMD or Nvidia, and it's usually better to just get 2 cards and SLI/Xfire them.

 

[Aristotelian]

I think its well worth it.
Every gtx590 from Evga with AR at the end of the model # has a lifetime warranty and covers overclocking.

I would grab a Evga gtx590 overvolt it to about 1 volt which should give you about 772 core and enjoy gtx580 sli performance for 250$ less. Personally I would give it 1.05v and run it at 800 core.

You really have nothing to lose, its covered.

If your worried, just keep and eye on this thread. It seems the Evga models are fine.

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/974902-nvidia-gtx-590-owners-club.html

Could you please show some benchmarks with an overclocked 590 versus overclocked 580s in sli? You said you'd get as much performance for 250 less, but I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

 

[tweakboy]

You wont notice a difference. Frame rate will be to close to each other.

Pointless upgarde.

You just payed 500 for a card,, and now you wanna sell it and get a 590.. then 690 comes out are you gonna jump on that.

If you have money to blow and rich then go for it, if not then chill and enjoy what you have its flawless framerates.. Thank you gg and gb

 

[Grooveriding]

Could you please show some benchmarks with an overclocked 590 versus overclocked 580s in sli? You said you'd get as much performance for 250 less, but I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

There was evidence. But it went up in flames :ninja: