Worth replacing the bumper or try to save the old one?

[Ricemarine]

So, another car had hit my car, causing a fair amount of bumper damage. It also looks like the metal black bar was pulled out, which I hope did damage to the other car since they ran away without giving info.

I'm trying to gauge how much needs to be done to fix this. I'll be seeing a few collision centers tomorrow (they're all closed today), but wanted to see what AT Garage thought.

Thanks.

 

[punjabiplaya]

if everything underneath is not damaged, just get a new bumper cover off ebay or something - couple hundred bucks max

if the crashbar is damaged or something else is bent, then probably 2k at least easily

 

[Ricemarine]

if everything underneath is not damaged, just get a new bumper cover off ebay or something - couple hundred bucks max

if the crashbar is damaged or something else is bent, then probably 2k at least easily

If the black piece of metal jutting out is the crashbar, what will make the cost go up to 2k?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

If the black piece of metal jutting out is the crashbar, what will make the cost go up to 2k?

Replacing the crashbar is labor intensive and usually means something is bent underneath it.

 

[punjabiplaya]

If the black piece of metal jutting out is the crashbar, what will make the cost go up to 2k?

that is not the crashbar, I can't really tell what it is (maybe some plastic lining or something).

You can clearly see the crash bar behind the bumper cover in the picture and it looks undamaged, but that doesn't mean it or its supports are not bent.

You can try to reattach the bumper cover, but it looks like its connectors/clips/retainers might have been broken off and you'll have to ghetto/ziptie/bungee cord it on, lol. Just remove the whole bumper cover (check out some honda forums, they'll have instructions, but it's usually really easy, all you probably need is a flathead screw driver and a wrench) and try to put it back on.

 

[Ricemarine]

that is not the crashbar, I can't really tell what it is (maybe some plastic lining or something).

You can clearly see the crash bar behind the bumper cover in the picture and it looks undamaged, but that doesn't mean it or its supports are not bent.

You can try to reattach the bumper cover, but it looks like its connectors/clips/retainers might have been broken off and you'll have to ghetto/ziptie/bungee cord it on, lol. Just remove the whole bumper cover (check out some honda forums, they'll have instructions, but it's usually really easy, all you probably need is a flathead screw driver and a wrench) and try to put it back on.

Ahh. I hope that the crash bar's alright then. So for the new bumper, will the primary costs be for 1) labor, 2) the front bumper, and 3) a new paint job for the bumper? How much if you had to estimate would all 3 cost? When I tried to get a quote for painting a bumper for my old corolla, they had wanted $1500 to repaint the just that.

and yeah, the retainers are broken. I'll see what happens when I take it in to the shop tomorrow.

and thanks for the info btw guys.

 

[IcePickFreak]

The black piece hanging out just looks like the plastic cowling that goes with the grill.

The crash bar is not labor intensive to replace, in fact you can see one of the bolts holes that bolts it on. It's literally 4 holes like that, and you can also see one bolt for the mount - ie. they're very simple to replace. That said, it looks like it might need a little time on the frame rack as the sheetmetal the crash bar is bolted to is tweaked a bit, which is where you'll rack up some $$.

As far as the bumper cover goes, it's hard to tell from the pic but it looks like it got stretched (ie it's wavy) a bit which means it would need to be replaced. Ask the shop if they'll use an aftermarket cover, like one from Keystone, instead of OEM - not all aftermarket stuff is junk.

As far as price for the whole thing, it's always a bit difficult to say because labor rates vary quite a bit from area to area, but I'd say punjabiplaya is pretty close with 2k to make it like it never happened.

 

[AdamK47]

Looks like your fender suffered some damage. It seems to be pushed in a bit.

 

[HarryLui]

Did you report this to the police as hit and run?

 

[Raizinman]

I got hit while sitting at a red light by a hummer. My F250 bumper took most all the crunch, but it also crumpled the left quarter panel. The insurance guy came out and gave me a check on the spot for $3850. I found a used bumper on Craigslist for $50, spent an afternoon swapping bumpers, popped the dent back out from the inside with my fist and I'm now $3800 richer. Wooohooo!!

 

[Black2na]

ok first things first the black thing is a bumper support that is bolted to the headlight keeps the lines tight it is NOT apart of the bumper bar. your fender is rolled a bit that can be repaired. also look at the plastic tabs on the headlight make sure none are broken. also look at the bumper a screw should bolt up into the fender. if the bumper ripped it should still be there in the fender with the screw if this the case the bumper wont be able to be repaired and will need to be replaced. its not bad at all and isnt serious but depending on if it needs a bumper or headlight your looking between 1-2k depending on labor rate and if they use aftermarket or OEM parts. Aftermarket headlights are ok but make sure they use OEM bumper and bumper brackets the fit and finish on the aftermarket bumpers are crap. and make your car more obvious it has been in some sort of crash

 

[weadjust]

My wife recently had to have the front bumper cover and one head light replaced on her 2007 Honda CRV. Total cost was $2096. Independent shop. They did excellent work. Other driver ran a red light. Their insurance paid all cost including a rental car.

 

[Ricemarine]

Did you report this to the police as hit and run?

The police just said to download, fill out, and mail a collision report form from the State Patrol's website since it was in a parking lot... I'm going to contact my insurance to see if they need that collision report or not.

I haven't checked the tabs of the headlight, but I hope it won't be more serious than what you all have said it is from the picture.

 

[Black2na]

its nothing serious is all cosmetic damage the structure of your car is 100% the same as it was before. the pretty bits just cost a decient amount of money. i own my own body shop it really isnt bad

 

[Ricemarine]

To update, we did get an estimate from an auto repair shop, and here's what they said:

- The light fixture is damaged where the bumper used to connect.
- They want to replace the right fender as it's shifted forward and inward
- The bumper cover definitely will need replacing
- Whatever is the black part that covers the upper portion of the tire and attaches to the bumper cover below, it needs replacing.

Overall, this auto repair shop wants $2,400 for the repairs if we go through with them. We'll be going to another repair shop later in the week to see what they would want to fix it.

 

[AdamK47]

To update, we did get an estimate from an auto repair shop, and here's what they said:

- The light fixture is damaged where the bumper used to connect.
- They want to replace the right fender as it's shifted forward and inward
- The bumper cover definitely will need replacing
- Whatever is the black part that covers the upper portion of the tire and attaches to the bumper cover below, it needs replacing.

Overall, this auto repair shop wants $2,400 for the repairs if we go through with them. We'll be going to another repair shop later in the week to see what they would want to fix it.

I called it.

 

[hanoverphist]

im getting ready to do damn near the same repair on my civic. 75 bucks for a new prepped fender, 40ish for the light fixture and 100 for a new bumper cover. ill do all the work myself tho, but i have a friend with a shop and tools. i dont have any structural damage tho, that may be the wash on it.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I've been putting off replacing my bumper cover for the same reason. (Got a hole punched in it while I was in the grocery store.)

It's $45 for a new cover, but $200 to get it painted. My deductible is $500, so it's not worth filing, but I have so many other things I'd rather spend $245 on)

*grumble*

 

[Ricemarine]

Alright... So here's an update for you all... IMO, I think I'm getting trolled hard.

Thursday: Filed an insurance claim, took the car in to the "recommended" collision center. Waiting for an estimate.
Friday: Guy who specialized with my insurance is out on vacation! No one else wants to estimate. Told to wait until Tuesday.
Tuesday: Guy still isn't there... no one still wants to estimate.
Wednesday: Guy comes back and apologizes. Says he was in the process of putting the estimates in the computer to send to insurance (and me) and will buy the parts. States the damage is: bumper cover, fender, head light structure, head light, front door "needs to be repainted".
Thursday: E-mailed insurance who then calls the collision center. Car should be done by Friday and estimates/pictures done at that time too.
Friday: Guy: Good news is, your car is done. Bad news, whoever painted your front door did an awful job. I can't return the car to you cause it looks like crap. Come back Monday.

I will be going to the collision center today to see what the hell is going on with my car, and see "how crappy of a paint job" they did to the car.

 

[Squisher]

At least that's better than trying to pawn off substandard work on you.

 

[AdamK47]

Front door?

The paint color won't match at all if it's likes all of the other silverish / metallic beige Toyotas and Hondas I see around here with repainted bumpers.

 

[Ricemarine]

Front door?

The paint color won't match at all if it's likes all of the other silverish / metallic beige Toyotas and Hondas I see around here with repainted bumpers.

Actually, it looked as if the color was matched properly. From what I could see from far away (the car was inside a sealed off parking lot), the front right door and bumper looks to be the same color as the rest of the car. It might be they repainted the car Friday afternoon though, but I'm not 100% sure. We'll just have to see tomorrow.

 

[vshah]

the black piece is a metal support that runs under the headlight. it must have gotten hooked on the other car as they backed out.