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Worth going from gtx 590 to gtx 680

hokies83

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Yes i have a Asus Gtx 590 been trying to sell it or trade it for a 680..

But is it worth it really?

The things i am looking at are this...

Energy savings and noise also how it seems to be hard to re sale duel gpu cards over a single cpu card..

Im looking at Gtx 680s that clock at 1300mhz are better...

But the fact remains is it worth it what are the ups and downs to this?

The bench shows a stock clock gtx 680 vs a 590 and the 590 wins by alot.. what id like to see is a overclocked gtx 680 vs a 590.
 

The_Golden_Man

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The 590 will be faster no matter what. About 50% faster.

Nonetheless, you should try and sell it and buy one 680. Or don't bother with the 680. Instead go for a custom design GTX 670, like the MSI PE or ASUS DC II. Those are just as fast as the 680. Then add another 670 after a while. This way you'll get a silent, superfast system, which is much faster than your old 590.
 

toyota

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The 590 will be faster no matter what. About 50% faster.

Nonetheless, you should try and sell it and buy one 680. Or don't bother with the 680. Instead go for a custom design GTX 670, like the MSI PE or ASUS DC II. Those are just as fast as the 680. Then add another 670 after a while. This way you'll get a silent, superfast system, which is much faster than your old 590.
um not even close. on average, a gtx590 is only about 15-20% faster than a stock gtx680.
 

hokies83

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Well my System is a 3770k @ 5ghz and im running a u2711 2560x1440 monitor.. And if i cant max out games at my res then i get a bit upset..
 

The_Golden_Man

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um not even close. on average, a gtx590 is only about 15-20% faster than a stock gtx680.
Sorry, my misstake, I was thinking in situations when it was 100% SLI scaling on the 590. A 680 is about 50% faster than a 580. I forgot to take into consideration the SLI scaling as a whole.
 

toyota

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Well my System is a 3770k @ 5ghz and im running a u2711 2560x1440 monitor.. And if i cant max out games at my res then i get a bit upset..
well then go with gtx670/680 4gb sli or you will be upset for some games.
 

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Sorry, my misstake, I was thinking in situations when it was 100% SLI scaling on the 590. A 680 is about 50% faster than a 580. I forgot to take into consideration the SLI scaling as a whole.
well even with perfect scaling the 590 is actually slower than even gtx570 sli since its clocked so low.
 

hokies83

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well with the 590 at 650mhz.. dont want to touch voltage since these things fry so easy...

And virtu Mvp i am able to hold strong at 50-55fps in Arkham city on ultra settings..
i would need performance from a gtx 680 to match that.

How close is a Gtx 680 @ 1300mhz to a 590?
 

Dark Shroud

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1300mhz is a pipe dream for a GTX 680 without special cooling and possibly volt modding.

Sell the 590 and buy a custom 670 from MSI or Asus and then buy a second one if needed.
 

hokies83

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1300mhz is a pipe dream for a GTX 680 without special cooling and possibly volt modding.

Sell the 590 and buy a custom 670 from MSI or Asus and then buy a second one if needed.
Well im looking at a Galaxy Gtx680 white ed... that boosts to 1300mhz with no overclocking needed.
 

Dark Shroud

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Well im looking at a Galaxy Gtx680 white ed... that boosts to 1300mhz with no overclocking needed.
If they guarantee the level of boost then I wouldn't touch the boost limit. If that's what you want go for it, just make sure your case is well cooled because of the thermal limit on these cards.
 

hokies83

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If they guarantee the level of boost then I wouldn't touch the boost limit. If that's what you want go for it, just make sure your case is well cooled because of the thermal limit on these cards.


It is cooled pretty well.
 

hokies83

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LoL gtx 590s are famous for being hot mine idles in the 30s and full loads in the high 60s.

Just waiting for the 590 to sell got it priced to move at 450$ heh .
 

blackened23

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Yes i have a Asus Gtx 590 been trying to sell it or trade it for a 680..

But is it worth it really?

The things i am looking at are this...

Energy savings and noise also how it seems to be hard to re sale duel gpu cards over a single cpu card..

Im looking at Gtx 680s that clock at 1300mhz are better...

But the fact remains is it worth it what are the ups and downs to this?

The bench shows a stock clock gtx 680 vs a 590 and the 590 wins by alot.. what id like to see is a overclocked gtx 680 vs a 590.
From a performance standpoint? No way, the 590 is still a great and will be faster in many scenarios. Obviously other wild cards could change things, for instance if you can sell your 590 for a good price i'd say definitely get a good aftermarket 680. I usually sell my old stuff with minimal loss, and you can still likely fetch a good price for the 590.

I see a fellow COSMOS II case user :D I have this case myself and absolutely LOVE it. It has better CPU/GPU temps than any other case i've ever used, and has tons of ease of use features..
 

lopri

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(Insert all the negatives of multi-GPU configs)

Yes, I would definitely go with a single 680 than an 590.
 

Joseph F

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I would ditch the 590 just because of the microstutter. In a worst-case microstutter scenario, the GTX 680 would probably have a higher perceived framerate than the 590.
 

cmdrdredd

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Microstutter is overblown. I ran a GTX 295 for years and never really noticed this whatsoever.

It is harder to notice than people on the internet would tell you.
 

RussianSensation

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Well my System is a 3770k @ 5ghz and im running a u2711 2560x1440 monitor.. And if i cant max out games at my res then i get a bit upset..
GTX680 is not really an good enough upgrade from a GTX590, especially not at high resolutions.

I can't see that well from that screenshot, but assuming you have a large enough space on your motherboard between PCIe slots, go for 2x MSI TwinFrozr HD7950 in CF. For $660 or so ($340 + $320 w/rebate), nothing even comes close. The performance drops off dramatically for GTX670/680 series at higher resolutions. 2x 1.1ghz HD7950 in CF would mop the floor with GTX680 @ 1.3ghz at your resolution. In fact, a 1.29ghz GTX680 can't even beat a 1.165ghz HD7970 at 2560x1600, so you can just imagine it's no competition for HD7950 CF with a mild overclock.

At 925mhz HD7950 is within 5% of HD7970. ~ Hexus.net Review

I know overclocking is a crapshoot at times, but even if you have the world's worst overclocking 7950 cards, they'll hit 1000mhz which essentially means you have 2x HD7970 in Cross-fire.

At this level of performance, GTX680 is a distant memory.

2560x1600 4AA
HD7970 CF is 60% faster vs. 680
2560x1600 8AA
HD7970 CF is 81% faster vs. 680
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690/4/

It's shocking that right now you can get 60-80% more performance for $660 compared to a $500+ GTX680 at about your resolution. Even if that 680 is overclocked to 1.3ghz, HD7950 CF at 1.1ghz will still beat it by a good 40-60%. :D

The cheapest setup from NV that even comes close to HD7970 CF performance is $800 GTX670 SLI and those have 2GB of VRAM, which is fine today but if you intend to keep this setup for 2-3 years on that monitor, you may want the 4GB versions, so almost $900-950 at that point....

HD7950 was a horrible buy at $470-490 but at $320-340, it's looking good for CF action.

The insane part is even if CF is totally broken for you, an overclocked 7950 would not be much slower than a 680 at 2560x1440 because a GTX680 is just 1% faster than a stock HD7970 at high resolutions. Whatever performance advantage GTX680 holds over thge 7970 at 1080P/1200P is all gone at 2560x1440/1600.

If you can manage to sell the GTX590 for ~$450, grabbing 2x HD7950 CF for $660 would net you a huge performance upgrade while a $500 GTX680 would do almost nothing in the grand scheme, unless you plan on getting 2!
 
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hokies83

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GTX680 is not really an upgrade form a GTX590, especially not at high resolutions.

I can't see that well from that screenshot, but assuming you have a large enough space on your motherboard between PCIe slots, go for 2x MSI TwinFrozr HD7950 in CF. For $640 or so, nothing even comes close. The performance drops off dramatically for GTX670/680 series at higher resolutions. 2x 1.1ghz HD7950 in CF would mop the floor with GTX680 @ 1.3ghz at your resolution. In fact, a 1.29ghz GTX680 can't even beat a 1.165ghz HD7970 at 2560x1600, so you can just imagine it's no competition for HD7950 CF with a mild overclock.

At 925mhz HD7950 is within 5% of HD7970. ~ Hexus.net Review

I know overclocking is a crapshoot at times, but even if you have the world's worst overclocking 7950 cards, they'll hit 1000mhz which essentially means you have 2x HD7970 in Cross-fire.

At this level of performance, GTX680 is a distant memory.

2560x1600 4AA
HD7970 CF is 60% faster vs. 680
2560x1600 8AA
HD7970 CF is 81% faster vs. 680
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690/4/

It's shocking that right now you can get 60-80% more performance for $640 compared to a $500+ GTX680. Even if that 680 is overclocked to 1.3ghz, HD7950 CF at 1.1ghz will still beat it by a good 40-60%. :D

The cheapest setup from NV that even comes close to HD7970 CF performance is $800 GTX670 SLI and those have 2GB of VRAM, which is fine today but if you intend to keep this setup for 2-3 years on that monitor, you may want the 4GB versions, so almost $900-950 at that point....
Nice Info there.. If there was a Rep button id use it,

I hear that there is some kinda unluck for these 7950s to make them 7970s?
Or is that just the over clock?

Also i pretty much only shop the used market for Gpus.. so things would even be cheaper.. I may not ge the same 2 cards however.. as that is not something that easy to happen buying used..
 

Joseph F

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Microstutter is overblown. I ran a GTX 295 for years and never really noticed this whatsoever.

It is harder to notice than people on the internet would tell you.
I've got a CF 4850 setup, and I certainly notice the microstutter, but it doesn't bother me much.
Others, however, treat it like it's the end of the world, so I usually try to recommend single-GPU setups over SLI/CF.
 

hokies83

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Oh and this is a Gigabyte UD5 Z77 mb so there is room for 2.. have no idea where the crossfire bridge is tho lol..
 

cmdrdredd

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I've got a CF 4850 setup, and I certainly notice the microstutter, but it doesn't bother me much.
Others, however, treat it like it's the end of the world, so I usually try to recommend single-GPU setups over SLI/CF.
Some people are sensitive to input lag, others don't mind it. Some people really notice screen tearing, others don't mind it. It's all dependent on the individual for sure.

Microstutter is just one of those things that's there, but had nobody explained it to you I wonder if you'd notice it. I feel that way about input lag. If someone knew nothing and always ran vsync I bet they'd never know if you suddenly turned vsync off unless they saw screen tearing.

Your video card should come with a XFire bridge.
 
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