Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Never worked in a big shop have we?
Thank you Mr. Sarbane and Mr. Oxley. Where it is mandatory for a change to go through umpteen million reviews (as dictated by the SOX) before it can be implemented.
I'm sick of folks saying "their IT sucks" without any real world experience. Patching a few thousand machines is one thing. Patching tens of thousands of machines, guarding the 100s of other companies you are connected with all while following change control as mandated by auditing companies or else face full disclosure is another.
Cowboys aren't allowed in a large enterprise.
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Never worked in a big shop have we?
Thank you Mr. Sarbane and Mr. Oxley. Where it is mandatory for a change to go through umpteen million reviews (as dictated by the SOX) before it can be implemented.
I'm sick of folks saying "their IT sucks" without any real world experience. Patching a few thousand machines is one thing. Patching tens of thousands of machines, guarding the 100s of other companies you are connected with all while following change control as mandated by auditing companies or else face full disclosure is another.
Cowboys aren't allowed in a large enterprise.
Systems Administator for Eaton Corp. for 4 years. Critical patches like this were to be tested and implemented within 48 hours.
I know the type "Oh...another patch came out. I'll get to it after we have a meeting about having a meeting about how many meetings we have." It's that type of work environment that slows things down, and I see it a lot on my current job. I'm sure CNN fell victim.
Overview
Apple has released Security Update 2005-007 to address multiple
vulnerabilities affecting Mac OS X, Mac OS X Server, Safari web
browser, and other products. The most serious of these vulnerabilities
may allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code. Impacts of
other vulnerabilities include bypassing security restrictions and
denial of service.
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Overview
Apple has released Security Update 2005-007 to address multiple
vulnerabilities affecting Mac OS X, Mac OS X Server, Safari web
browser, and other products. The most serious of these vulnerabilities
may allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code. Impacts of
other vulnerabilities include bypassing security restrictions and
denial of service.
Yea OK, and how many Macs actually were affected to the point where a company went down? Zero. Ignore this troll.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Never worked in a big shop have we?
Thank you Mr. Sarbane and Mr. Oxley. Where it is mandatory for a change to go through umpteen million reviews (as dictated by the SOX) before it can be implemented.
I'm sick of folks saying "their IT sucks" without any real world experience. Patching a few thousand machines is one thing. Patching tens of thousands of machines, guarding the 100s of other companies you are connected with all while following change control as mandated by auditing companies or else face full disclosure is another.
Cowboys aren't allowed in a large enterprise.
Systems Administator for Eaton Corp. for 4 years. Critical patches like this were to be tested and implemented within 48 hours.
I know the type "Oh...another patch came out. I'll get to it after we have a meeting about having a meeting about how many meetings we have." It's that type of work environment that slows things down, and I see it a lot on my current job. I'm sure CNN fell victim.
guess you guys aren't public. If you are then name the auditors....I'd like to hire them so my group doesn't have to be handcuffed by SOX.
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Overview
Apple has released Security Update 2005-007 to address multiple
vulnerabilities affecting Mac OS X, Mac OS X Server, Safari web
browser, and other products. The most serious of these vulnerabilities
may allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code. Impacts of
other vulnerabilities include bypassing security restrictions and
denial of service.
Yea OK, and how many Macs actually were affected to the point where a company went down? Zero. Ignore this troll.
you know, the funny part about that post of yours?
the fact that the companies werent running mac. hence why they didnt go down.
hence the "ZERO"
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Never worked in a big shop have we?
Thank you Mr. Sarbane and Mr. Oxley. Where it is mandatory for a change to go through umpteen million reviews (as dictated by the SOX) before it can be implemented.
I'm sick of folks saying "their IT sucks" without any real world experience. Patching a few thousand machines is one thing. Patching tens of thousands of machines, guarding the 100s of other companies you are connected with all while following change control as mandated by auditing companies or else face full disclosure is another.
Cowboys aren't allowed in a large enterprise.
Systems Administator for Eaton Corp. for 4 years. Critical patches like this were to be tested and implemented within 48 hours.
I know the type "Oh...another patch came out. I'll get to it after we have a meeting about having a meeting about how many meetings we have." It's that type of work environment that slows things down, and I see it a lot on my current job. I'm sure CNN fell victim.
guess you guys aren't public. If you are then name the auditors....I'd like to hire them so my group doesn't have to be handcuffed by SOX.
Filling out paperwork just to request approvals to install security patches really bites. SOX SUCKS :|
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fritzo
It only shut down CNN's 2000 boxes because their IT dept sucks. MS released the patch last week and their IT probably had to run a zillion unneeded tests on it first before deloying it, and now they're paying for it.
Never worked in a big shop have we?
Thank you Mr. Sarbane and Mr. Oxley. Where it is mandatory for a change to go through umpteen million reviews (as dictated by the SOX) before it can be implemented.
I'm sick of folks saying "their IT sucks" without any real world experience. Patching a few thousand machines is one thing. Patching tens of thousands of machines, guarding the 100s of other companies you are connected with all while following change control as mandated by auditing companies or else face full disclosure is another.
Cowboys aren't allowed in a large enterprise.
Systems Administator for Eaton Corp. for 4 years. Critical patches like this were to be tested and implemented within 48 hours.
I know the type "Oh...another patch came out. I'll get to it after we have a meeting about having a meeting about how many meetings we have." It's that type of work environment that slows things down, and I see it a lot on my current job. I'm sure CNN fell victim.
guess you guys aren't public. If you are then name the auditors....I'd like to hire them so my group doesn't have to be handcuffed by SOX.
Filling out paperwork just to request approvals to install security patches really bites. SOX SUCKS :|
Yes they were. DJI symbol is ETN (they're the largest supplier of pressure hoses and valves to auto manufacturers in the world). I haven't been there for 3 years though, but the policy was when a critical patch came out, it was to be tested in our simulator servers for 48 hours and then deployed.
Originally posted by: ATLien247
I'm not all that familiar with SOX, but wouldn't the revenue losses from system down time exceed the penalties for failing to comply with SOX?
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ATLien247
I'm not all that familiar with SOX, but wouldn't the revenue losses from system down time exceed the penalties for failing to comply with SOX?
no. Failing to comply with SOX is a very, very bad thing and could cause a company's stock to plummet. Investors would lose trust.