World Trade Center

[Platypus]

Absolutely disgusting.

 

[McGyver]

as a new yorker, i reject that film on the ground of mix feelings.

 

[oddyager]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Zolty
I still think movies about these events are being made to soon. It seems like they are just capitalizing on our grief.

you may think so, but all the families involved in both movies wanted the movies to be made.

Somehow I doubt it was as unanimous as you seem to think. I think both movies are in poor taste and are capitalizing on other people's tragedy. The only right way to have done these is with a business model that benefits people other than the studios and fat-wallet actors and execs.

United 93 was developed on a small budget and casted relatively no-namers. I highly doubt their intention was to capitalize on the 9/11 tragedy. I can't speak the same though for WTC. Seems more like Oliver Stone wanted to rush this so he could claim he was the first.

 

[speedstream5621]

I didn't like this movie. I understand it wasn't about the actual events so much as the story behind the two main characters, but what is up with the marine? The dream(?) where Jesus entends bottled water? I also noticed the omission of certain ethnicities...oh, Oliver.

I guess I just didn't like how "9/11 sorta just happened...now we need to focus on the pain and suffering of thes two guys" mentality.

The person I saw it with really liked it though.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: speedstream5621
I also noticed the omission of certain ethnicities...oh, Oliver.

I'm sorry, but with the exception of the Marine that has been on the news recently that was black and portrayed by a white man, I don't see your point. From what I understand, this movie was based on the accounts of the two people rescued and their accounts. It was also based around their particular squad or precinct (whatever you call it). As such, the film depicted those people and the people that rescued them. I saw white, black, Asian and hispanic people in the film, so I don't understand your point about ethnicities being omitted.

As for the film itself, I give it an 8.5 out of 10. I'm by no means an emotional person, but the scene where they were found by the Marine and the phrase he uttered to Will made me break down in tears. I couldn't hold it in anymore as the tears had been welling up in my eyes for the past 30 minutes, but at that point my body couldn't take it anymore. My GF looked over and asked me what was wrong and I was doubled over crying.

I thought that it was pretty solid acting throughout with the exception of Cage who I don't particularly care for as a dramatic actor in the first place. But everyone, especially Michael Pena got my respect.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: speedstream5621
I also noticed the omission of certain ethnicities...oh, Oliver.

I'm sorry, but with the exception of the Marine that has been on the news recently that was black and portrayed by a white man, I don't see your point. From what I understand, this movie was based on the accounts of the two people rescued and their accounts. It was also based around their particular squad or precinct (whatever you call it). As such, the film depicted those people and the people that rescued them. I saw white, black, Asian and hispanic people in the film, so I don't understand your point about ethnicities being omitted.

As for the film itself, I give it an 8.5 out of 10. I'm by no means an emotional person, but the scene where they were found by the Marine and the phrase he uttered to Will made me break down in tears. I couldn't hold it in anymore as the tears had been welling up in my eyes for the past 30 minutes, but at that point my body couldn't take it anymore. My GF looked over and asked me what was wrong and I was doubled over crying.

I thought that it was pretty solid acting throughout with the exception of Cage who I don't particularly care for as a dramatic actor in the first place. But everyone, especially Michael Pena got my respect.

Extremely powerful line that the Marine delivered in that moment. EXTREMELY.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Josh
Extremely powerful line that the Marine delivered in that moment. EXTREMELY.

Exactly. That one line just opened the flood gates from me and I couldn't contain myself.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: oddyager
United 93 was developed on a small budget and casted relatively no-namers. I highly doubt their intention was to capitalize on the 9/11 tragedy. I can't speak the same though for WTC. Seems more like Oliver Stone wanted to rush this so he could claim he was the first.

Did you even SEE WTC? It seems as though people want to bash the movie SIMPLY b/c Oliver Stone is involved and that is unfortunate.

I'm sorry, but there are no political undertones or MAJOR embellishments of fact...there is nothing really controversial about the movie. It just simply tells the story of these two guys and their families. The only really "iffy" part about the movie IMHO was Jesus holding the water bottle, but more than likely that is what Will had imagined while he was slipping in and out of conciousness and after having massive internal bleeding. He was probably just recalling what he saw and was thinking and portrayed that to Oliver Stone. Did you guys ever think about that? The guy was thirsty as hell. You know how people see mirages and images of water when they're thirsty in an arid environment. How is this any different for a religious man trapped under rubble, thirsty as hell?

WHAT THE &^#^ are you people getting so pissed about? I mean, damn!

 

[Amused]

I had much the same feelings many in here have: Too soon, not respectful, etc. And the fact that Oliver Stone was the director made me weary.

But the GF really wanted to go see it, so...

Well, I was wrong. The movie does not sensationalize 9/11 at all. There is no silly over the top drama, either. It's actually very well done and respectful. It was everything I did NOT expect it to be.

Focusing on the one group of PAPD officers was an excellent way to personalize the experience for the viewer. No political BS, no 70s style disaster crap with over the top drama trying to tell the stories of dozens of unconnected people. Just the experiences of one group of officers from their point of view. YOU become them and feel what they feel.

Those of you who are criticizing it need to see it before you judge it.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Amused
I had much the same feelings many in here have: Too soon, not respectful, etc. And the fact that Oliver Stone was the director made me weary.

But the GF really wanted to go see it, so...

Well, I was wrong. The movie does not sensationalize 9/11 at all. There is no silly over the top drama, either. It's actually very well done and respectful. It was everything I did NOT expect it to be.

Focusing on the one group of PAPD officers was an excellent way to personalize the experience for the viewer. No political BS, no 70s style disaster crap with over the top drama trying to tell the stories of dozens of unconnected people. Just the experiences of one group of officers from their point of view. YOU become them and feel what they feel.

Those of you who are criticizing it need to see it before you judge it.

Another person who actually SAW the movie and can comment with at least half a brain. I too was not wanting to see this movie (I had even balked at United 93), but my GF wanted to see it. I told her that if we could go see Ricky Bobby for our 3-year anniversary this past Tuesday, that I would agree to go see WTC with her on Saturday evening.

I'm not Oliver Stone's biggest fan (although I did like Platoon), but I thought that movie was very tastefully done.

 

[Horus]

Originally posted by: destrekor
Here's my review:

The end of the movie sees the dedication of it to those who perished, and lists the names of the Port Authority Police Department. After the movie ended, my girl and I sat there and didn't move. And neither did the rest of the staff screening the movie. It took a moment, and then it hit us.... wow. One would assume this movie had added drama to make it more movie-friendly, and thus before scoring it, it is necessary to know the stories behind the families involved, including the two PAPD officers. Watching documentaries of the filming of the movie helped, as it was explained that the extras who rescued the trapped people from the rubble in the movie were real rescuers from that dreadful day, and the two officers were on set and said that Nicholas Cage and Michael Pena played the roles perfectly.

That is good news, as one might say that Cage was dry, but as the movie plays on, the dry-acting Cage grows more and more on the viewer, and it becomes understood that is what the officer was like. Drama isn't necessary to add, as the families involved had every bit of drama life could throw at them. The movie isn't as much about the events of 9/11 as it is about the effects of 9/11, and how that day changed the families.

One should not watch the movie expecting a documentary of the events, but rather the story of the hell the two officers visited, and the life-changing hours that followed.

A good portion of the movie is in the rubble, but this is not a negative. This is where the story shines, as you truely learn the lives of the officers, and how little everyone involved truely new.

8/10

A gripping movie, one that if I hadn't already wanted to bash the skulls in of the terrorists in the middle east, I would want to now. I bleed red, white, and blue.. and the story of 9/11 only makes that blood bleed truer.

"You don't talk much, do you sarge?"

"...No...that's because I'm getting CRUSHED TO DEATH! ARRRRGH!"

I found that kinda funny.