I am considering getting an lcd monitor. The features I would like are 19 inch screen and DVI interface since I have a Radeon 9800 Pro with DVI. The response time will be determined by my budget and it seems 25ms is the best I can afford. Has anyone tried playing World of Warcraft on an lcd monitor with that refresh rate? I will most likely be running it at 1024x768 resolution. Additionally if anyone can recommend a good monitor with those specs please do so. Thanx for your advice.
world of warcraft on a 25ms lcd?
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I'd be more concerned with the ass-poor scaling you're going to get from running 1024 on a 19".
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I am sure 1024x768 isn't the native resolution for any 19" LCD, which means you'll get a blurry image using that res, 19" monitors have atleast 1280x1024 res which your card is capable of running, and for your question about WOW, you're asking beta testers, right? Cuz the game hasn't been released yet. I have no personal experience in this game, so I hope someone else helps you out with that.
To clarify, my budget is around $500 and I really want an lcd to free up the desk space. I will run the game at 12x10 since my card can handle it and it looks better that way anyway. However, I strongly prefer 10x7 for tasks such as browsing and office work so I will use that for the desktop resolution; I am hoping it does not matter too much for that. I am aware that World of Warcraft is still in beta but there was a one week stress test that anyone could join so I am hoping someone with a 25ms response time lcd did and can tell me if there was any serious blurring. Once again thanx for your advice.
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it will matter, when running that low of a res on that monitor, it's gonna look blurry, you should always run an lcd at it's native res.
It seems this thread is getting derailed by people telling me not to run at nonnative resolution. I have tried it a little bit at the store and it seems fine to me for things like text and web browsing. Back to the real question. How serious is the ghosting or blurring on a 25ms lcd for games like World of Warcraft? Also can anybody recommend a good 19in, 25ms, DVI lcd?
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It will look great. I am currently playing Warcraft 3 on a 19" LCD (DVI) and it looks incredible - no discernable blurring or ghosting. WoW should be pretty similar.
UT 2k4 ghosts a fair bit on my 25ms 19", but Warcraft 3 looks great and slower FPSes (ie Doom3) look alright. It's only extremely fast/jerky motion that looks bad on high response time LCD's, and RTSes don't have frequent ultra-fast perspective changes like that.
UT 2k4 ghosts a fair bit on my 25ms 19", but Warcraft 3 looks great and slower FPSes (ie Doom3) look alright. It's only extremely fast/jerky motion that looks bad on high response time LCD's, and RTSes don't have frequent ultra-fast perspective changes like that.
Thanx a lot jiffylube1024, that is great news. Now all I need is to find a good deal on a good brand lcd sometime soon.
i agree wtih cbehnken.
just because its 25ms doesnt mean its bad...well, it really depends on the quality of it. there are some 25ms panels better then many 16ms panels, such as the samsung 243T (since it's brand new made with new technology).
I guess I have nothing to worry about then, World of Warcraft should look great. Currently I am thinking of getting a Dell UltraSharp 1901FP. Unfortunately I was too late to get the 20% of deal so hopefully a similar one will come along soon.
On my Samsung 191T 19" 25ms, I noticed a form of 'ghosting' in fast moving games: UT 2k4, Far Cry, even Doom3 to a lesser extent. I think it is because the Grey > Grey time on these monitors (moving from light to dark shades of grey) is very high (like 60ms+ or something!) so the greys in these games (very common in UT and Doom smear a bit. That could all be hodgepodge.
Regardless, the 191T wasn't the best for gaming. Maybe it was just more noticeable because the screen was so huge.
Anway I'm on a 17" 25ms Samsung panel and I really don't notice any ghosting at all on it, not in UT 2k4 or Doom3 or anything.
Warcraft, as I said above, was beautiful on either, and it was quite nice having the extra screen space of the 191T.
My buddy's 710T is just awesome for games though.. I want one
.I have a Viewsonic VX910 I picked it up at best buy for $500 after rebate. It is a 16ms monitor with DVI and it blows my old 21' Trinatron tube away. I've been playing WOW on it for just under a week and it looks great even at 1024x768...though i will tell you the desktop looks horable at that res. I run at native for all desktop apps.
I'm not sure whether your question was answered. I am interested as well as i am looking for an LCD to play either WoW or EQ2.
Jiffylube was talking mainly about Warcraft 3 and RTS games, sp perhaps he got the 2 Warcraft games confused.
Jiffylube was talking mainly about Warcraft 3 and RTS games, sp perhaps he got the 2 Warcraft games confused.
25ms will be fine as long as you play games that are not fast paced like Q3, NFSU etc where the responce time actually maters, even in Farcry that you are moving cautiusly ( SP mode ) you will not get ghosting, but if you planned on running Q3 on it I would not recomned it since the fast games have a tendency to ghost, in my eyes at least.
For Wow etc I dont thing that you will have a problem, but I will go with the rest to propose that you run it at its native res.
For Wow etc I dont thing that you will have a problem, but I will go with the rest to propose that you run it at its native res.
Anandtehc just reviewed a bunch of 19" LCDs, among them a well-received Nutech [sic?] that--IIRC--has a <=16ms response time and sells for ~$400 at NewEgg.
But I'll say that buying an LCD to run text at non-native res just seems silly. You're paying a premium for nothing, really. A 19" CRT driven by a quality video card will be just about as flicker-free at 10x7@100+Hz, and the text will be easier to read because you're not dealing with the scaling artifacts inevitable in a fixed-pixel LCD. I really think you'll be better off buying a 19" CRT (I believe the Samsung 997DF is recommended around here) and a video card with excellent signal quality (Matrox, ATI) to run at 10x7, if the issue is that you're not comfortable reading text at a res higher than 10x7. Have you tried using Large Fonts and Windows XP's Cleartype on a 19" LCD at its native resolution of 1280x1024?
But if you really find 10x7 on a 19" LCD good for web browsing, I guess I'll just point you to one of Anandtech's many 19" LCD reviews and get out of your way.
But I'll say that buying an LCD to run text at non-native res just seems silly. You're paying a premium for nothing, really. A 19" CRT driven by a quality video card will be just about as flicker-free at 10x7@100+Hz, and the text will be easier to read because you're not dealing with the scaling artifacts inevitable in a fixed-pixel LCD. I really think you'll be better off buying a 19" CRT (I believe the Samsung 997DF is recommended around here) and a video card with excellent signal quality (Matrox, ATI) to run at 10x7, if the issue is that you're not comfortable reading text at a res higher than 10x7. Have you tried using Large Fonts and Windows XP's Cleartype on a 19" LCD at its native resolution of 1280x1024?
But if you really find 10x7 on a 19" LCD good for web browsing, I guess I'll just point you to one of Anandtech's many 19" LCD reviews and get out of your way.
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=24-006-079&depa=1 looks like a nice one plus a $50 instant rebate
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