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Work/Repair Starts in Jerusalem

until the Palestinians can react responsibly I see no reason to listen to them anymore. Frankly, if they act out violently they should be killed. Hell the Palenstinians can't even get along with each other, why in the world do we hold Israel up to standards we won't hold the Palestinians too?

Perhaps if the Palestinians could learn to live with each other first then they might be able to live with the Israelies. Hell its not like any other Middle East country wants them.
 
Hornet's nest?
More like another fabricated reason to justify rioting, violence, and -- of course -- to stall the peace process, and then blame it on Israel.

Look at the picture in the following article: Protests continue over Mughrabi dig

And also in this editorial: Bridge over troubled water

Of particular interest are the following paragraphs:
"This is a very dangerous project that will damage things of great historical value in this very sensitive place," Wakf director Adnan Husseini warned.

This is hutzpa, given that the Wakf itself removed earth from the Mount itself by the truckload, without proper archeological supervision, as it expanded the mosque there.

Islamic Movement leader Raed Salah urged Muslims to converge on Jerusalem to protect Al-Aksa. "The danger in Jerusalem has increased," the fiery sheikh said, adding a clear incitement to violence: "It is high time for the intifada of the Islamic people."

The truth, of course, is that the bridge is simply a pedestrian walkway replacing the stone ramp leading up to the Mughrabi Gate that partially collapsed in a storm three years ago and was deemed unsafe by city engineers.

By law, the Antiquities Authority is required to carry out a salvage excavation before any construction at the site. Yuval Baruch, the authority's chief archeologist for Jerusalem, said the dig was at least 60 meters from the Mount.
"We invite everyone to come see," he told Israel Radio. "We are working under the open sky and have nothing to hide."
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If anything, this demonstrates yet again how immature the Palestinians are.
 
Originally posted by: dna
Hornet's nest?
More like another fabricated reason to justify rioting, violence, and -- of course -- to stall the peace process, and then blame it on Israel.

Look at the picture in the following article: Protests continue over Mughrabi dig

And also in this editorial: Bridge over troubled water

Of particular interest are the following paragraphs:
"This is a very dangerous project that will damage things of great historical value in this very sensitive place," Wakf director Adnan Husseini warned.

This is hutzpa, given that the Wakf itself removed earth from the Mount itself by the truckload, without proper archeological supervision, as it expanded the mosque there.

Islamic Movement leader Raed Salah urged Muslims to converge on Jerusalem to protect Al-Aksa. "The danger in Jerusalem has increased," the fiery sheikh said, adding a clear incitement to violence: "It is high time for the intifada of the Islamic people."

The truth, of course, is that the bridge is simply a pedestrian walkway replacing the stone ramp leading up to the Mughrabi Gate that partially collapsed in a storm three years ago and was deemed unsafe by city engineers.

By law, the Antiquities Authority is required to carry out a salvage excavation before any construction at the site. Yuval Baruch, the authority's chief archeologist for Jerusalem, said the dig was at least 60 meters from the Mount.
"We invite everyone to come see," he told Israel Radio. "We are working under the open sky and have nothing to hide."
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If anything, this demonstrates yet again how immature the Palestinians are.
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So if you are dealing with an irrational group and this sets them off is it worth it?
 
It's worth it because the bridge collpased a couple years back and it's being held up by makeshift wooden planks.
It's not on the temple mount, it's right outside and runs along the Western Wall plaza.
This is hardly suprising, the constructions was planned for over two years, as was the Palestinian response.
They are counting on people to react as you just did.
Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
 
Aksa Martyrs' vow synagogue attacks:
The Fatah-affiliated Aksa Martyrs Brigades threatened on Wednesday to attack synagogues if Israel continued its excavation near the Temple Mount ahead of the planned construction of a new bridge to the Mughrabi Gate.

In a press release sent to newspapers, the group announced that all synagogues would become legitimate targets and that "the sanctity of the Al Aksa Mosque should not be less than that of the synagogues."
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Yep, these guys are "dying" to have a country, and they have the best leaders to guide them.
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence

Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
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And Christianity and Islam
I think The problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place



 
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence

Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
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And Christianity and Islam
I think The problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place
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Hardly the case Israel welcomes all faiths into its country to vist the holy sites as long as their intentions are for peace and worship not to carry out a terror attack. The most democratic and progressive country in the Middle East is Israel and that is a fact.
 
Originally posted by: nullzero

Hardly the case Israel welcomes all faiths into its country to vist the holy sites as long as their intentions are for peace and worship not to carry out a terror attack. The most democratic and progressive country in the Middle East is Israel and that is a fact.
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Ya, it's a nice place to visit, but don't try to live there 😉
Or or gotta keep them tourism dollars rolling

The little town of Bethlehem is perhaps more associated with Christianity than any other place in the world.

But now there are fears that soon it could be home to hardly any Christians at all.

To get into Bethlehem from Jerusalem you have to go through a checkpoint. Actually nowadays it looks more like a border crossing.
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Bethlehem Christians flee tensions


 
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Bethlehem Christians flee tensions
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:laugh:
I see you are getting your "balanced" news from the BBC, while giving it a spin against Israel. Too bad that the omnipotent PA is in charge there now.

Here's a more interesting article, that has not been through the BBC sanitization process: O, Muslim town of Bethlehem...
There are reports of religious persecution, in the form of murders, beatings and land grabs.
...
The sense of a creeping Islamic fundamentalism is all around in Bethlehem.
...
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.

Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
...
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.

Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.

Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.

A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
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Yep, this one is clearly Israel's fault.
 
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence

Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
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And Christianity and Islam
I think The problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place
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ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
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I don't know a whole alot about Israel, never met a Jew in my life ( as far as I know) and I have posted this before
But I am trying to learn as much as I can and here I am
My relatives are pretty religious and have been to Israel several times

Yes , I was talking about Jerusalem, Bethlehem and just Israel in general

I think I won't take anything from what you have to say though, you seem pretty quick to judge for me

you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about
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Everything I post, I get from reading and then post the link
Don't blame me then, blame the anti-semi ties at Wiki, the cia, and of course to please dna , the bbc




 
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence
ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
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I don't know a whole alot about Israel, never met a Jew in my life ( as far as I know) and I have posted this before
But I am trying to learn as much as I can and here I am
My relatives are pretty religious and have been to Israel several times

Yes , I was talking about Jerusalem, Bethlehem and just Israel in general

I think I won't take anything from what you have to say though, you seem pretty quick to judge for me
you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about
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Everything I post, I get from reading and then post the link
Don't blame me then, blame the anti-semi ties at Wiki, the cia, and of course to please dna , the bbc
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If you don't know alot about Israel, which is the subject at hand, you should refrain from making such definitive comments such as " the problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place". While I think it's great that your relatives have gone, I've lived there, and what you claim is certainly not the case at all. You should go, it will probably be enlightening. Don't assume you can read a few Wiki pieces, an article here and there and have enough of an accurate understanding of the reality to make such judgements.
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence

Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
Click to expand...

And Christianity and Islam
I think The problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place
Click to expand...
ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
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Considering that their Prophet (supposedly) ascended to Heaven from there, it should be important. As for Jerusalem being in the Koran, Islam is big on God and small on the prophets and places.

Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Bethlehem Christians flee tensions
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:laugh:
I see you are getting your "balanced" news from the BBC, while giving it a spin against Israel. Too bad that the omnipotent PA is in charge there now.

Here's a more interesting article, that has not been through the BBC sanitization process: O, Muslim town of Bethlehem...
There are reports of religious persecution, in the form of murders, beatings and land grabs.
...
The sense of a creeping Islamic fundamentalism is all around in Bethlehem.
...
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.

Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
...
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.

Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.

Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.

A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
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Yep, this one is clearly Israel's fault.
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Are you retarded? First you provide a link from the BBC then you lambast somebody else for doing the same?
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence

Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
Click to expand...

And Christianity and Islam
I think The problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place
Click to expand...
ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
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Considering that their Prophet (supposedly) ascended to Heaven from there, it should be important. As for Jerusalem being in the Koran, Islam is big on God and small on the prophets and places.
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I'm aware of the Muslim dogma. As I wrote, it's an entirely different discussion.
 
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
How come when i try to find official Israel allies. the only one that pops up is Micronesia
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does it matter???
Israel needs no allies.
Seems to me like you are just acting foolishly and trying to cause trouble...
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
How come when i try to find official Israel allies. the only one that pops up is Micronesia
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does it matter???
Israel needs no allies.
Seems to me like you are just acting foolishly and trying to cause trouble...
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and being the kid in school who has no friends shows no sign of anti social behaviour
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: ThePresence
ALthough it was obvious from your other posts I've recently read on this forum, you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about. I mean, have you ever even been there? How many Jews have you seen on the temple mount? WTF are you blabbing about? The Jewish people pray at the Western Wall outside the temple mount. The muslims go up on the mount and very few Jews do. Christianity does not claim it as one of their holiest places. The muslims claim it as their 3rd holiest site (although it's not mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem for that matter, but that's an entirely different discussion).
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I don't know a whole alot about Israel, never met a Jew in my life ( as far as I know) and I have posted this before
But I am trying to learn as much as I can and here I am
My relatives are pretty religious and have been to Israel several times

Yes , I was talking about Jerusalem, Bethlehem and just Israel in general

I think I won't take anything from what you have to say though, you seem pretty quick to judge for me
you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about
Click to expand...
Everything I post, I get from reading and then post the link
Don't blame me then, blame the anti-semi ties at Wiki, the cia, and of course to please dna , the bbc
Click to expand...
If you don't know alot about Israel, which is the subject at hand, you should refrain from making such definitive comments such as " the problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place". .
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You seem to have processed what I typed * I think the problem is that...*
to *" the problem is that it is quickly becoming a Jews only allowed place".

 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
You should go, it will probably be enlightening.
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I would love to go, one of my greatest fears is that what I want to see will all be destroyed by the time I get around to it

 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
original Earl you make no sense...what are you trying to say?
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Alot of things you post don't make sense to me either Jedi. But you keep posting, I aways like reading your posts
One of the things I wonder is how come if you and your son are American citizens now. Why did he join the IDF and went over to fight Palistenians rather then join the US mil and go fight Iraqis?
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
It's worth it because the bridge collpased a couple years back and it's being held up by makeshift wooden planks.
It's not on the temple mount, it's right outside and runs along the Western Wall plaza.
This is hardly suprising, the constructions was planned for over two years, as was the Palestinian response.
They are counting on people to react as you just did.
Keep in mind that this is the holiest place in Judaism, yet nobody is worried about their feelings, only how the Palestinians might feel about it.
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I don't care how the Pals feel about it as I agree they are irrational. I'm just saying that if it's going to cause more death and destruction it might not be worth following through with it.
 
Interesting times indeed: Israel has to be worried about the Palestinians throwing a tantrum when a bridge needs to be repaired.

Israel should crack down hard on any rioters too dumb to realize this is a non issue; make them realize they are putting their life on the line by allowing themselves to be puppets.
 
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