Work: It's not a daycare

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dudeman007

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Whatever...let her have her hour or two. She's been on leave for a while and now wants to update her coworkers on her life for a little while. Do you have any kids? I'm sure your perspective on this would change dramatically if you did.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
I have headphone cans, with volume all the way up and it's not helping in the least.

Impossible....

Or you need a headphone amp.
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whatever...let her have her hour or two. She's been on leave for a while and now wants to update her coworkers on her life for a little while. Do you have any kids? I'm sure your perspective on this would change dramatically if you did.

No.

Nor do I want them.

How is this any different than smoking in public? It's your choice what you do in private (smoke, have kids, whatever), but in the public (i.e. work) area this is forcing your life choices upon me. In my state (Ohio) smoking in public places is banned for a reason. Your life choices are being forced upon people who didn't make the same life choices as you did.
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Oh the bright side, it gave you an excuse to nef for the past half hour.

Now it's about an hour that I've done hardly any work because of it.

So close the fucking browser dipshit!

Then I'll sit around and do nothing, at least this way I am being productive :p

Ask the mom why she needs a job if she has so many kids. Welfare has better salaries...

As does child support on 3 kids (un-married)....
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: v1001
This is totally not acceptable. And don't let the old fogies on here with over entitlement issues tell you different. Allowing her kids to irritate everyone is rude and inconsiderate.

Tell your boss you can't work like that and you are stressed out from it. Tell him you will come back when you can concentrate and the situation has changed. And yes being stressed from loud annoying kids can be very detrimental to your health. Not everyone has kids and has learned for years to just zone it out. They are HER kids not yours or the offices.

None of my 3 bosses were around for that whole time. I plan on talking to them when I see them again.
 
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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
I have headphone cans, with volume all the way up and it's not helping in the least.

Impossible....

Or you need a headphone amp.

They aren't audiophile level speakers, I don't have an amp, and they don't block out/cancel noise. With kids <5 ft from you screaming you can still hear it.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
I think my issue with it is she doesn't have control over them. If she brought them in, they were kept under control, and weren't allowed to run around screaming it wouldn't bother me as much. I still say work+kids shouldn't mix (unless you bring a newborn in for 30 min or so one day to let everybody see, but even this I am against.). If you want to see some persons kids do it on your own time, not works. Go out on your lunch break, go to their house after work, something on your own time.

For the most part I agree with you. The kids should not be running around disturbing everyone. At the same time, an introduction and their presence alone should not be disturbing to the employees.

I look at this sort of thing as a privilege. Like all privileges, they should not be abused unless a special arrangement has been agreed upon. I like kids and I like it when the parents bring them in to show off a little because I think that sort of thing contributes towards a friendly and healthy work environment. Those kinds of environments, in my experience at least, tend to be more productive because the employees are happier. I am also somewhat flexible with behavior because kids are kids, but as I keep emphasizing I am particular about my standards with public behavior too.

Also, see my reason #2 in my original reply although I realize it does not apply in this case. Sometimes, the parents have little choice and everything just works out for the majority of people when they bring their kids to work on occasion.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whatever...let her have her hour or two. She's been on leave for a while and now wants to update her coworkers on her life for a little while. Do you have any kids? I'm sure your perspective on this would change dramatically if you did.

No.

Nor do I want them.

How is this any different than smoking in public? It's your choice what you do in private (smoke, have kids, whatever), but in the public (i.e. work) area this is forcing your life choices upon me. In my state (Ohio) smoking in public places is banned for a reason. Your life choices are being forced upon people who didn't make the same life choices as you did.

Don't think like that. I understand your point about them being too unruly. That is justified. However, like many people out there, you probably spend more time around those that you work with than anyone else. Try to keep it a friendly environment. Everyone will appreciate it.
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: rivan
Put on some headphones and get over it.

If it's an ongoing thing, then bring it up to HR, otherwise call the WAHHHHHmbulance.

This. I worked with thousands of small, screaming children for 40 hours a week over the summer... so I'm kind of used to it by now. :p

So you work in a typical corporate office just line everyone else, eh Xanis?

Haha :p

I actually worked a seasonal job at an amusement park.
 

BoomerD

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These companies just need to fire anyone who has children.

They drive up insurance costs

They cause lots of missed days

They are a major cause of the spreading of disease and sickness.


Easiest fix, get rid of anyone who is stupid enough to procreate.
Let them stay home and be mommies...:D



















(got batteries?) ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
I think my issue with it is she doesn't have control over them. If she brought them in, they were kept under control, and weren't allowed to run around screaming it wouldn't bother me as much. I still say work+kids shouldn't mix (unless you bring a newborn in for 30 min or so one day to let everybody see, but even this I am against.). If you want to see some persons kids do it on your own time, not works. Go out on your lunch break, go to their house after work, something on your own time.

For the most part I agree with you. The kids should not be running around disturbing everyone. At the same time, an introduction and their presence alone should not be disturbing to the employees.

I look at this sort of thing as a privilege. Like all privileges, they should not be abused unless a special arrangement has been agreed upon. I like kids and I like it when the parents bring them in to show off a little because I think that sort of thing contributes towards a friendly and healthy work environment. Those kinds of environments, in my experience at least, tend to be more productive because the employees are happier. I am also somewhat flexible with behavior because kids are kids, but as I keep emphasizing I am particular about my standards with public behavior too.

Also, see my reason #2 in my original reply although I realize it does not apply in this case. Sometimes, the parents have little choice and everything just works out for the majority of people when they bring their kids to work on occasion.

As I have stated bringing the newborn in to see people, okay fine I will make that concession. I don't have a problem with kids that are kept under control, and not disrupting the work aspect of working. When they are disrupting my work, and I will have to answer for that (because it affects my numbers) it makes me mad.

How about this, bring your kids to work and go to one of our meeting rooms. Let people know ahead of time time/room and anybody who wants to can go see them and have a grand ol time. The people who could care less about others kids, like me, can still work like a normal day. Another option is do it in the cafeteria. I am even willing to go so far as let them on the floor with people, as long as they are quiet and kept under control. Letting them run around, bang on metal file cabinets, bang on keyboards, scream, etc is not something that should be allowed. Granted managment here is stupid (can't close the blinds when the sun is setting and giving off massive glare for example).
 
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whatever...let her have her hour or two. She's been on leave for a while and now wants to update her coworkers on her life for a little while. Do you have any kids? I'm sure your perspective on this would change dramatically if you did.

No.

Nor do I want them.

How is this any different than smoking in public? It's your choice what you do in private (smoke, have kids, whatever), but in the public (i.e. work) area this is forcing your life choices upon me. In my state (Ohio) smoking in public places is banned for a reason. Your life choices are being forced upon people who didn't make the same life choices as you did.

Don't think like that. I understand your point about them being too unruly. That is justified. However, like many people out there, you probably spend more time around those that you work with than anyone else. Try to keep it a friendly environment. Everyone will appreciate it.

I am here to work, not to be all buddy buddy with coworkers. I'll interact with them, but I keep it to a minimum. I don't see a point to it since once I leave I won't remember 90% of their names.

I get to work, put on headphones (pictured above), and listen to music/the radio. I don't really care about coworkers. They are people I work with, and that is all. A few I talk to outside of work and do non-work stuff with, but most I have no reason to talk to. Yes it's a depressing job, but I'm here to work.
 

Linflas

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Damn kids running around everywhere here at work, annoying as hell...Oh wait this is a middle school and they're supposed to be here. :D
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Don't think like that. I understand your point about them being too unruly. That is justified. However, like many people out there, you probably spend more time around those that you work with than anyone else. Try to keep it a friendly environment. Everyone will appreciate it.

I am here to work, not to be all buddy buddy with coworkers. I'll interact with them, but I keep it to a minimum. I don't see a point to it since once I leave I won't remember 90% of their names.

I get to work, put on headphones (pictured above), and listen to music/the radio. I don't really care about coworkers. They are people I work with, and that is all. A few I talk to outside of work and do non-work stuff with, but most I have no reason to talk to. Yes it's a depressing job, but I'm here to work.

You don't have to be buddy buddy to keep things friendly. Just don't be the grouchy old man. I am not buddy buddy with my co-workers either, but we have an environment like I described and work is just much better. People are happier this way and easier to work with as a result which means we are more efficient and the quality is higher. I have worked in both types of environments and just trust me when I tell you that it is a lot better from all angles this way.

You have a good argument with the unruly behavior, but everything beyond that is just your pet peeves talking and has nothing to do with your ability to work effectively.
 
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I've been brought to work but like most other ATers I was a fan of browsing/using the computer. My mom would find me an empty terminal and I just sit down and shut up. When I was even younger I played those Unix games like Missile command.. hahaha
 

Bibble

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Feb 20, 2006
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I have a solution for you.

Mom: Hey DisgruntledVirus, these are my kids. Hey kids say hi to Mr. DV.

You: Actually, I'd love to meet your kids, but the judge told me I'm not allowed to be near children anymore.
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: rivan
Put on some headphones and get over it.

If it's an ongoing thing, then bring it up to HR, otherwise call the WAHHHHHmbulance.

I have headphone cans, with volume all the way up and it's not helping in the least.

Shens.

You're looking for a reason to be bothered, and you've found one. Congratulations. Nef on.

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I don't see an external amp - that's your problem... you might be at max volume, but your max volume has been judged and found wanting. :p


Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Oh the bright side, it gave you an excuse to nef for the past half hour.

Now it's about an hour that I've done hardly any work because of it.

13 posts per day... I don't think a kid in the office for an hour's really killing your productivity :D
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
I've been brought to work but like most other ATers I was a fan of browsing/using the computer. My mom would find me an empty terminal and I just sit down and shut up. When I was even younger I played those Unix games like Missile command.. hahaha

That's what I did too, but only if I didn't have any homework. Otherwise, I had to get that done first. :)
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: rivan
Put on some headphones and get over it.

If it's an ongoing thing, then bring it up to HR, otherwise call the WAHHHHHmbulance.

I have headphone cans, with volume all the way up and it's not helping in the least.

Shens.

You're looking for a reason to be bothered, and you've found one. Congratulations. Nef on.

Text

I don't see an external amp - that's your problem... you might be at max volume, but your max volume has been judged and found wanting. :p


Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Oh the bright side, it gave you an excuse to nef for the past half hour.

Now it's about an hour that I've done hardly any work because of it.

13 posts per day... I don't think a kid in the office for an hour's really killing your productivity :D

I do need an amp. And audiophile headphones (instead of my gaming pair I have). It's on my to-buy list.

13 PPD, what can I say? I usually get done with my work early while posting on AT.
 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Interesting thought - what happens if you work in a daycare? Then technically...

Work: It's a daycare

What happens if you're drunk?

It's: daycare a Work