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presidentender

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: presidentender
Originally posted by: spidey07
It sounds like you're new to this working thing. This happens all the time, just about everywhere you will work. If you continue this path it will be very self destructive to your career.

By whining, you're part of the problem and not the solution. The solution is to do your job and not whine. Maybe Dwight is protected in ways you aren't privy to or understand. By whining you're giving off the "not a team player" attitude.

Yeah, I've never had a job before. I certainly haven't been in the work force since I was fifteen. Never had the guy who I washed dishes with who never showed up and left me to take his slack, never split firewood for weeks with my own kid brother being the problem worker. Never had an issue with the management at Cracker Barrel or Home Depot, where I didn't work, since I'm new. Certainly never had all these issues resolved or gotten a pay raise while the other guys got fired from my construction job. Thank you for your wonderful insight.

If I was a disinterested third party, had as few details as you do, and hadn't read the OP closely, I might agree with you. Thing is, I'm not the only one "whining," and in fact I'm the only one on board with the "fix Dwight" thing instead of the "can his ass" thing.

You did all those things? Man, we all were wrong. You are truly a hero.

Not claiming superiority. The thing is, I did come here to get advice, and my OP is misleading. But the "people are dicks everywhere and you're a dick too" advice isn't the most productive. I already know that people are dicks and every workplace has bad apples and I have "authority issues." I'm interested in advice that takes into account the fact that I already know these things.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: presidentender
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: presidentender
Originally posted by: spidey07
It sounds like you're new to this working thing. This happens all the time, just about everywhere you will work. If you continue this path it will be very self destructive to your career.

By whining, you're part of the problem and not the solution. The solution is to do your job and not whine. Maybe Dwight is protected in ways you aren't privy to or understand. By whining you're giving off the "not a team player" attitude.

Yeah, I've never had a job before. I certainly haven't been in the work force since I was fifteen. Never had the guy who I washed dishes with who never showed up and left me to take his slack, never split firewood for weeks with my own kid brother being the problem worker. Never had an issue with the management at Cracker Barrel or Home Depot, where I didn't work, since I'm new. Certainly never had all these issues resolved or gotten a pay raise while the other guys got fired from my construction job. Thank you for your wonderful insight.

If I was a disinterested third party, had as few details as you do, and hadn't read the OP closely, I might agree with you. Thing is, I'm not the only one "whining," and in fact I'm the only one on board with the "fix Dwight" thing instead of the "can his ass" thing.

You did all those things? Man, we all were wrong. You are truly a hero.

Not claiming superiority. The thing is, I did come here to get advice, and my OP is misleading. But the "people are dicks everywhere and you're a dick too" advice isn't the most productive. I already know that people are dicks and every workplace has bad apples and I have "authority issues." I'm interested in advice that takes into account the fact that I already know these things.

(please forgive me for slipping back to my old self for one post)

The thing is you are claiming superiority. Look at the post I quoted...you named all those people that you were better than. You think that you are better than everyone around you. Here's a newsflash: You aren't. You want to control everything and everyone around you. Its not going to work.

Grow a pair and either deal with it or quit. The squeaky wheel does get the oil but it also is the first to be replaced.

Maybe you should be thankful for what you do have. There are so many people out there without jobs who WISH they could have your petty problems. Tomorrow try going in and teling your boss that you are sorry for being an asshat. Ask him what you can do to help make the situation better for everyone instead of stirring the pot.
 

presidentender

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
(please forgive me for slipping back to my old self for one post)

The thing is you are claiming superiority. Look at the post I quoted...you named all those people that you were better than. You think that you are better than everyone around you. Here's a newsflash: You aren't. You want to control everything and everyone around you. Its not going to work.

Grow a pair and either deal with it or quit. The squeaky wheel does get the oil but it also is the first to be replaced.

Maybe you should be thankful for what you do have. There are so many people out there without jobs who WISH they could have your petty problems. Tomorrow try going in and teling your boss that you are sorry for being an asshat. Ask him what you can do to help make the situation better for everyone instead of stirring the pot.

Wait, what? It's not as if I'm "stirring the pot." Every person who's worked there more than a year has made a complaint to the Boss about Dwight.

You're right, I am claiming superiority as a worker in specific jobs to people I've worked with in the past. Because I was objectively better at those jobs. The point of that post was that I do have work experience, and I have had problems with my coworkers in the past, not that I'm hot shit.

I am thankful for what I have. There's still nothing wrong with trying to better my situation.
 

PowerEngineer

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Originally posted by: presidentender
I'm the only one at my level on the org chart in the meeting, over my protests. My coworkers are fine with me being the one to talk to the boos (because then they don't have to deal with confrontation, right?), but would like to be involved in the meeting, specifically in order to beat up on Dwight. I don't think that helps anyone, and would rather just say "Wer're all going to fix him and be supportive" or "bye bye, Dwight."

If it's only you and Dwight, then it's even clearer (at least to me) that the Boss sees the problem as being you and Dwight. Those compliants by others haven't made any real impression on him yet. Even more reason to push the "fix Dwight" (or even more defensively fix our working relationship) option at the meeting.

Your original post suggests that your co-workers may not be "fine with you" as a spokesman. It's a risky role that you'd probably be better off not accepting right now.

I agree that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with seeking to better your situation, however your efforts to do so will be self defeating if the result is perceived as damaging to the larger group.

Good luck with whatever course of action you choose.
 

paulxcook

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It's a college job and you've got the rest of your life to deal with dickheads at work. Quit now while the consequences are small. Seriously. The advice in here about sucking it up and dealing with it is bullshit. College is one of the most carefree times you'll ever have in your life compared to working in the real world. Enjoy it while you can. Who knows. If you offer the ultimatum maybe your boss will fire Dwight, or at least force him to knock it off.

edit: Ha, I killed a thread.