WOOHOO. My Viewsonic V35 PocketPC just shipped!!! :)
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Adul
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Originally posted by: NFS4
LOL, another PalmOS complainer who can't get over the fact that the PocketPC OS is superior and that PocketPC devices are now coming in much cheaper and with much better features
snob
i look at it this way, has long has it suits your needs.
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Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: NFS4
LOL, another PalmOS complainer who can't get over the fact that the PocketPC OS is superior and that PocketPC devices are now coming in much cheaper and with much better features
snob
i look at it this way, has long has it suits your needs.
HAG!
Yeah, whatever floats your boat is all that matters. Strictly speaking, there is NO PalmOS device that can even touch the functionality and performance of the Del Axim X5 300MHz PDA which can be had for $175 after coupon and $50 MIR.
Show me a PalmOS device that has:
300MHz Processor
32MB RAM
32MB ROM
1440mah battery (removeable)
CompactFlash slot
SD slot
Jog Wheel
Transflective screen
All for under $200 new. NOT GONNA HAPPEN
Then you have the iPAQ 1910 and Viewsonic V35 for under $300. Viewsonic has 64MB RAM/32MB ROM, 300MHz X-Scale and weighs 4.2 ounces with a thickness of .4"
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: NFS4
LOL, another PalmOS complainer who can't get over the fact that the PocketPC OS is superior and that PocketPC devices are now coming in much cheaper and with much better features
snob
i look at it this way, has long has it suits your needs.
HAG!
Yeah, whatever floats your boat is all that matters. Strictly speaking, there is NO PalmOS device that can even touch the functionality and performance of the Del Axim X5 300MHz PDA which can be had for $175 after coupon and $50 MIR.
Show me a PalmOS device that has:
300MHz Processor
32MB RAM
32MB ROM
1440mah battery (removeable)
CompactFlash slot
SD slot
Jog Wheel
Transflective screen
All for under $200 new. NOT GONNA HAPPEN
Then you have the iPAQ 1910 and Viewsonic V35 for under $300. Viewsonic has 64MB RAM/32MB ROM, 300MHz X-Scale and weighs 4.2 ounces with a thickness of .4"
It's because Palm users don't need over-excessive bloat. They want an organizer, not an electronic swiss army knife.
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I made a smart move with the Toshiba. I sold it a month ago (after having it for two months). I sold it at the peak of the model's popularity and before the new "cheap" PocketPC's started flooding the market (in turn dropping the price on other high-end models with the same features). That way I could get top dollar. I bought the e550G with a 64MB CF card and a 802.11b Wi-Fi CF card for $600.
I sold the e550G with the 802.11b card for $550 on October 28th.
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Why pay $300 for an "organizer" when you can pay $300 for a PDA that can do almost everything out of the box?
That's the reason why PocketPC's are gaining more and more marketshare. In fact, Fed-Ex just announced that they are going with PocketPCs:http://www.brighthand.com/article/FedEx_PocketPC
I'm all about bang for the buck. And right now, PocketPC's offer that in spades.
I switched from the PalmOS to PPC about a year ago. I don't see a single reason why one would choose a PalmOS over a PPC.
Imho, there is absolutely nothing that a PalmOS can do that PPC cannot do better.
Imho, there is absolutely nothing that a PalmOS can do that PPC cannot do better.
Well, I think that has more to do with the particular screen and battery selection, and not the OS.
I've messed around with a few different PDA's. I work on Bluetooth, and I've tested several PDA's at my office.
I've been using a Palm Vx to store my databook and contacts (~5000 contacts in different groups). My kid plays some simple games on it when in the car. Occasionally, I jot a quick note if I can't find a pen.
I've tried on several occasions to switch to a PPC.
Likes ->
The Gizmo factor. Lots of stuff to fiddle with. I have quake running on my 3635. Pretty neat.
Multimedia. I listen to book on tape (on mp3) and I can just shove a few chapters on CF and use the PPC.
Bigger screen. I guess this doesn't matter much since Palm devices are getting hi-res now too.
Dislikes ->
Stability. WTF?!?!? The reason I lug a PDA around is for convienence. The PPC's I've used are all sub-par in terms of stabiliy. If I use the iPaq all day it's probably that I'll need to reset it once.
Stability. Again. After I used the stupid Outlook patch to transfer my contacts into categories on the PDA (which totally horked my Outlook contact list), I noticed that browsing and scrolling through 5k contacts is very aggrivating on the PPC (this was with the 3635). Scrolling/Selecting contacts was very jerky, sometimes it would hang for several seconds.
Battery life. Well, i'm coming from a Vx which lasts several weeks. Even with that giant battery sleeve on the 3635 the batter life stinks.
Size. Vx fits in shirt pocket.
That all said, my Tungsten|T is on it's way. It should cover all my requirement plus give me multimedia to boot. Don't really care about the cost since I'd rather spend $500 on something I'll use than $300 on something which will annoy me.
I've been using a Palm Vx to store my databook and contacts (~5000 contacts in different groups). My kid plays some simple games on it when in the car. Occasionally, I jot a quick note if I can't find a pen.
I've tried on several occasions to switch to a PPC.
Likes ->
The Gizmo factor. Lots of stuff to fiddle with. I have quake running on my 3635. Pretty neat.
Multimedia. I listen to book on tape (on mp3) and I can just shove a few chapters on CF and use the PPC.
Bigger screen. I guess this doesn't matter much since Palm devices are getting hi-res now too.
Dislikes ->
Stability. WTF?!?!? The reason I lug a PDA around is for convienence. The PPC's I've used are all sub-par in terms of stabiliy. If I use the iPaq all day it's probably that I'll need to reset it once.
Stability. Again. After I used the stupid Outlook patch to transfer my contacts into categories on the PDA (which totally horked my Outlook contact list), I noticed that browsing and scrolling through 5k contacts is very aggrivating on the PPC (this was with the 3635). Scrolling/Selecting contacts was very jerky, sometimes it would hang for several seconds.
Battery life. Well, i'm coming from a Vx which lasts several weeks. Even with that giant battery sleeve on the 3635 the batter life stinks.
Size. Vx fits in shirt pocket.
That all said, my Tungsten|T is on it's way. It should cover all my requirement plus give me multimedia to boot. Don't really care about the cost since I'd rather spend $500 on something I'll use than $300 on something which will annoy me.
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I've never had an issue with the stability of the PocketPC2002 OS. It has always been rock solid for me.
Also, never had a problem with contacts...don't know what's going on there. I've used Outlook 2000, Outlook XP, and I will soon be using my PDA with the beta of Outlook 11. Again, Activesync has always been very good in the syncing department, much more reliable than HotSync.
The iPAQ 3970 gets excellent battery life given it's uses:
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/compaq3900.htm
The Viewsonic gets 85% of the battery life of the iPAQ 3970. The iPAQ 1910 should get the same as the V35, and the Dell Axim's should get the same as the iPAQ 3970. With the Axim's optional 3400mah battery, it will have AWESOME battery life. The Sony NX PDA's have a rated battery life of 3-4 hours from Sony. Now THAT is pitiful.
The iPAQ 3970 is not that far behind the Tungsten in battery life. If the Tungsten can go for a week of normal usage on a full charge, the 3970 is at 5-6 days. Not bad. That means that the V35 and iPAQ 1910 should be at 4-5 days. Still perfectly acceptable:
http://www.brighthand.com/review/?id=50
Both the Viewsonic V35 and iPAQ 1910 are smaller, thinner, and lighter than the Tungsten. They are also $200 cheaper. Should be enough to get you a Bluetooth SD card if you so desire and still have about $100 left over.
Yawn, I think that's enough for now
No argument, which is why I said the difference is closing rapidly. As Palm gets better displays and power hungry features, the battery life drops more and more.
So you were without a PPC for more than a month? No wonder you're excited about your Viewsonic shipping.
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Originally posted by: prontospyder
So you were without a PPC for more than a month? No wonder you're excited about your Viewsonic shipping.
DUDE, you don't know how HARD it has been without my PDA
This has been the first time in 4 years that I didn't have a WinCE/PocketPC device by my side on a daily basis.Let me clarify a bit. With sub 500 contacts, my iPaq with 32M of memory was fine. When I imported 5000, it choked. My Palm Vx with 8MB of memory works fine. I believe this has to do with EIP of Palm, whatever, it works where the iPaq didn't.
The iPAQ 3970 gets excellent battery life given it's uses:
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/compaq3900.htm
The Viewsonic gets 85% of the battery life of the iPAQ 3970. The iPAQ 1910 should get the same as the V35, and the Dell Axim's should get the same as the iPAQ 3970. With the Axim's optional 3400mah battery, it will have AWESOME battery life. The Sony NX PDA's have a rated battery life of 3-4 hours from Sony. Now THAT is pitiful.
The iPAQ 3970 is not that far behind the Tungsten in battery life. If the Tungsten can go for a week of normal usage on a full charge, the 3970 is at 5-6 days. Not bad. That means that the V35 and iPAQ 1910 should be at 4-5 days. Still perfectly acceptable:
http://www.brighthand.com/review/?id=50
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So by that math, the V35 has 65% of the battery life of the Tungsten. Fairly significant.
Both the Viewsonic V35 and iPAQ 1910 are smaller, thinner, and lighter than the Tungsten. They are also $200 cheaper. Should be enough to get you a Bluetooth SD card if you so desire and still have about $100 left over.
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The V35 is smaller than 4x3x.64? Impressive. Pics?
And your out an expansion slot when you add that BT SD card.
Yawn, I think that's enough for now
arrogant as ever. a pity really.
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Considering that a PDA spends its night in the charger, I don't see how. If you're using your PDA for normal daily activities, it's MORE than enough. If you use your PDA for more than 8 hours a day, then you've got some issues
Doesn't really matter when you've got 64MB RAM. But BT is pretty unreliable and slow anyway these days. I'd rather have built-in Wi-Fi. As for specs:
Palm Tungston
Closed: 4 x 3 x 0.6
Open: 4.8 x 3 x 0.6
Weight: 5.6 ounces
Viewsonic V35
4.8 x 3 x 0.4
Weight 4.2 ounces
Best pics of the V35
I PITY DA FOOL!
But of course, I'm not the one that hopped into a PocketPC thread with no other intentions than to mock someone's purchase
Originally posted by: NFS4
Considering that a PDA spends its night in the charger, I don't see how. If you're using your PDA for normal daily activities, it's MORE than enough. If you use your PDA for more than 8 hours a day, then you've got some issues
As a frequent flier, I don't belive I will ever be carrying a charger for my PDA. That's pretty pointless, isn't it?
Of course Bluetooth is slow and unreliable, the V35 doesn't have it!
What on earth would a PDA do with more than 700kbps?
As far as WiFi, jeeze, you really want your batteries to die don't you. WLAN chipsets in standby (i.e. not transmitting anything) draw more than Bluetooth chips do when in full power/full datarate.
As far as reliable goes, I have much less trouble with Bluetooth scatternet than I do with the stability of PPC2002.
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I PITY DA FOOL!
[/quote]self pity isn't healthy
and your car is a piece of junk too I don't really care that much about PPC vs Palm, I just find you really amusing to argue with... in a Rosie O'Donnell sorta way. 100% right and can't be convinced otherwise.have a stupendous day
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Bluetooth is NOWHERE near 700kbps in the real world. This has been discussed countless times:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5247&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
It's the same way that Wi-Fi doesn't get 11Mbps, and is more like 3 - 5.
Better safe than sorry. No charger = taking chances for a mobile person on the road alot with a PDA that doesn't have replaceable batteries.
Lastly, what does my car have to do with anything? You're the one that hopped into the thread with no other intentions than to mock my purchase...so what does that say?
lol, ya countless times.
bluetooth is infact, capable of 700kbps transfers. I measure it daily. It's actually a bit higher, depending on the transport. Perhaps it's that wonderful PocketPC2002 operating system causing the issues. Their implimentation might be limited to a low speed UART for the transport. WiFi wouldn't improve that at all, now would it?
From PC to PC I measure about 350kbps on average, depending on which stack I'm running. As you mentioned, it's quite similar overhead to 802.11b, which has a max transfer rate of about 5Mbps (3-4 with security).
Which is why I wouldn't waste my cash on taking a chance with the V35.
Lastly, what does my car have to do with anything? You're the one that hopped into the thread with no other intentions than to mock my purchase...so what does that say?
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See, it works. Oh yeah, and your ugly too
Yeah, PPCs have been getting better and better all the time....
If I have enough money next year (september), I would like to buy one with built in 802.11a (UofT is installing a wireles network throughout the campus), perhaps bluetooth and lots of memory (perhaps 256mb). That would be sweet....
I am hoping next-gen (or iteration or whatever) PPCs are even more Full of features and much cheaper than today.
Also, I am very curious to see what Palm has up their sleaves with PalmOS 6. I know many of you will just
, but rumours have it that the BeOS team is working on it and the chances of them producing somethign that can compete with PPC2002 are high.
If I have enough money next year (september), I would like to buy one with built in 802.11a (UofT is installing a wireles network throughout the campus
), perhaps bluetooth and lots of memory (perhaps 256mb). That would be sweet....I am hoping next-gen (or iteration or whatever) PPCs are even more Full of features and much cheaper than today.
Also, I am very curious to see what Palm has up their sleaves with PalmOS 6. I know many of you will just
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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Yeah, PPCs have been getting better and better all the time....
If I have enough money next year (september), I would like to buy one with built in 802.11a (UofT is installing a wireles network throughout the campus
I am hoping next-gen (or iteration or whatever) PPCs are even more Full of features and much cheaper than today.
Also, I am very curious to see what Palm has up their sleaves with PalmOS 6. I know many of you will just, but rumours have it that the BeOS team is working on it and the chances of them producing somethign that can compete with PPC2002 are high.
Well, by the time PalmOS 6 gets here, PocketPCs will be using Windows CE.NET. Palm is aiming at a moving target
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