Women Increasingly Freezing Their Eggs To Pursue Their Careers

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http://www.businessweek.com/printer...baby-will-freezing-your-eggs-free-your-career

Later, Baby: Will Freezing Your Eggs Free Your Career?



Imagine a world in which life isn’t dictated by a biological clock. If a 25-year-old banks her eggs and, at 35, is up for a huge promotion, she can go for it wholeheartedly without worrying about missing out on having a baby. She can also hold out for the man or woman of her dreams.

Egg freezing, which is similar to in vitro fertilization (IVF), has been around for 30 years, “but we were lousy at it until very recently,” Grifo says. The process was originally developed as a way to preserve the fertility of cancer patients undergoing possibly sterilizing chemotherapy, and it’s relatively simple. First, a woman’s ovaries are stimulated with fertility drugs (generally a nine-day course of shots administered at home) to produce as many eggs as possible. Then doctors do what’s called a transvaginal retrieval: They insert a needle through a woman’s vaginal wall and into her ovary and gently suck out the eggs. That’s the easy part. Unlike in vitro embryos, which have been fertilized by sperm, eggs are just one large cell consisting mostly of water.

The next frontier in egg freezing is genetic screening. The process is called a polar body biopsy and involves testing each egg’s DNA, then keeping only those that are normal, which would greatly increase the odds of a successful pregnancy. “Many women go through the process and end up with absolutely nothing,” Sher says. “With genetic testing, we can cut down on that emotionally damaging false hope.” Of course, no good thing is free: The tests cost an additional $3,000 to $4,000. And “nothing is ever going to be 100 percent,” Grifo says. “Listen,” he adds, after learning that I’m about to turn 33, “you shouldn’t wait too long to get pregnant. You’re never going to be totally ready.”
 

Scotteq

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Are the nuts that protest at Planned Parenthood everyday going to start protesting the frozen eggs too?

Only if the illegal immigrant women which our controllers are using to carry the eggs to Term start having abortions...

 

AViking

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It's too much like Idiocracy. People postpone and postpone and then it's too late. I think the technology is great but something should be said about having mothers that are not 40 when they have their first child or who suddenly feel compelled to have 3 children in their 40's. It's just so much easier to do when you're younger.

The solution is paid parental leave like the rest of the developed world.
 

AViking

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That won't exactly help women that are forgoing children to pursue their career or because they haven't found the "right guy" yet.

Women who can't find the "right guy" have their own issues. However paid parental leave absolutely helps women have children without sacrificing their careers.
 

z1ggy

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Makes sense. With the amount of crushing debt and lower purchasing power of the middle class, it's pretty hard to have only one income earner in a family now. Both mother and father need to h ave jobs in order to provide a decent life for the family.
 

nehalem256

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Women who can't find the "right guy" have their own issues. However paid parental leave absolutely helps women have children without sacrificing their careers.

Lets think about this. How does taking a year off from your career not retard your career advancement?:confused:
 

Texashiker

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Imagine a world in which life isn’t dictated by a biological clock. If a 25-year-old banks her eggs and, at 35, is up for a huge promotion, she can go for it wholeheartedly without worrying about missing out on having a baby. She can also hold out for the man or woman of her dreams.

As men get older his chance of having a child with birth defects goes up.

Freezing her eggs at 25 years old does little good if she gets knocked up by a 40+ year old man.

To ensure healthy children have kids early in life. That is all there is to it.


That won't exactly help women that are forgoing children to pursue their career or because they haven't found the "right guy" yet.

If she can not "find the right guy", it is not him, it is her.

There is a lady I went to high school with. A few months ago she found me on facebook. She is 44 years old and still has not found 'the right guy". Maybe its more like her drinking and using drugs that keeps the good guys away?
 
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Newell Steamer

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A frozen egg is an unfertilized egg,.. these women should be tried and punished for preventing the miracle of God from happening. I mean, could you imagine the horrors if we could stop earthquakes, and tsunamis?!

Now, imagine stopping ALL of life, because some woman wants to be the bread winner!!! So, now, they are holding back lives AND forcing us men to pay for not being able to spread their legs!!

In all seriousness though,... good for them. It's their body, their life, their decision (with their significant other's input) on what to do or not to do with everything that affects them.
 

Texashiker

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In all seriousness though,... good for them. It's their body, their life, their decision (with their significant other's input) on what to do or not to do with everything that affects them.

So the woman should not seek help from insurance companies or government assistance when they have a child with autism because the father is like 40+ years old?

If the woman plans on getting knocked up by a 25 year old guy, fine. But chances are she is going to meet someone her age to fertilize the egg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect

The result being that "Men have a biological clock of sorts because of random mutations in sperm over time". Dr. Patrick F. Sullivan, a professor of genetics at the University of North Carolina, who was not involved in the study said "This is the best paper I’ve seen on this topic, and it suggests several lines of inquiry into mental illness".

In a 2009 analysis of California birth data from 1989 through 2002 and autism data to 2006, an increase of 10 years in paternal age was associated with a 22% increase in risk for autism

So yea, put off having kids until your 40 something years old. Just do not complain when the kid has autism.

Or worse yet, if the kid is bi-polar,
Frans et al. (2008) considered 13,428 Swedish cases of bipolar disorder and 67,140 controls, and found an increased risk for bipolar disorder for people whose fathers were older than 24 years than those whose fathers were 20–24 years old at birth
 

Newell Steamer

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So the woman should not seek help from insurance companies or government assistance when they have a child with autism because the father is like 40+ years old?

This has nothing to do with what I posted.

Go create a seperate thread or something if you want to talk to us about you personal problems.
 

nehalem256

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You're a special kind of stupid. The rest of the developed world does this and has no problems.

And is that why they have a higher birth rate than the US?

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:rolleyes:
 

Texashiker

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This has nothing to do with what I posted.

It has everything to do with what you posted.

Good for the women they are taking control of their bodies and career.

Bad for their kids who have an increased risk of autism, bi-polar and other birth defects.
 

Newell Steamer

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It has everything to do with what you posted.

Good for the women they are taking control of their bodies and career.

Bad for their kids who have an increased risk of autism, bi-polar and other birth defects.

Ah, so you want to murder these mothers, who are planning their lives, like you want to murder medical doctors for performing legal procedures?

And, drop the denial act, you were modded for your comment about taking doctors out to the back ally and murdering them, you diseased psychotic lunatic.
 

Texashiker

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Ah, so you want to murder these mothers, who are planning their lives, like you want to murder medical doctors for performing legal procedures?

And, drop the denial act, you were modded for your comment about taking doctors out to the back ally and murdering them, you diseased psychotic lunatic.

Ad hominem

Do you have anything to debate the facts of the thread?

Or are you going to resort to personal attacks?

You claim it is good for a mother to increase her childs risk of autism by 20+ percent? And that is only if she waits until her thirties to find a man.

If she waits until her 40s and finds a man around her age, the parents have increased the childs risk of autism by +40% percent.

You explain to me how increasing a childs risk of autism by 40+% is a good thing.
 

AViking

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And is that why they have a higher birth rate than the US?



:rolleyes:

What does this have to do with the subject? The reason the US has such a high birthrate is because they have so many more poor people, have a lack of access to birth control, have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the developed world, and so on.
 

Newell Steamer

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Or are you going to resort to personal attacks?

Ah, so you are offended for being called out on wanting to murder medical doctors for performing legal procedures.

I won't be apologizing for not accepting your blood thirsty way of thinking.

Also, no need to discuss anything with someone who does not respect the law and binding contractual agreements.

You are a criminal; through and through.

You are advocate for murder and breaking legally binding contracts.
 

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You're a special kind of stupid. The rest of the developed world does this and has no problems.

So what do you think would happen is a person was on family leave and a position came open? Do you think the company would contact the person on family leave or interview/hire an available applicant that could immediately fill the position?
 

Texashiker

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Do you have anything to back up your statement that it is a good thing women are talking control of their bodies.

As a result of freezing their eggs until later in life but finding an older husband, the couple is increasing the childs chance of birth defects.

That is an non-debatable scientific fact.

As the fathers age increases, so does the risk of birth defects.

Maybe the mother could find a young stud in his 20s to fertilizer her eggs? Surely her husband will not mind raising another mans child and calling it his own?

Maybe she will be lucky enough to find a man who froze his sperm?

Good luck with all of that.

Women want to wait until their 30s and 40s to have kids, do not complain when the child has austim, bi-polar, down syndrome or some other type of birth defect.
 
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Do you have anything to back up your statement that it is a good thing women are talking control of their bodies.

As a result of freezing their eggs until later in life but finding an older husband, the couple is increasing the childs chance of birth defects.

That is an non-debatable scientific fact.

As the fathers age increases, so does the risk of birth defects.

Maybe the mother could find a young stud in his 20s to fertilizer her eggs? Surely her husband will not mind raising another mans child and calling it his own?

Maybe she will be lucky enough to find a man who froze his sperm?

Good luck with all of that.

Women want to wait until their 30s and 40s to have kids, do not complain when the child has austim, bi-polar, down syndrome or some other type of birth defect.

Why complain? Obamacare.
 

AViking

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So what do you think would happen is a person was on family leave and a position came open? Do you think the company would contact the person on family leave or interview/hire an available applicant that could immediately fill the position?

I have no idea how that works to be honest. I think it's a great point. I'm not sure how to answer it.

However in the US you either work or quit your job. That's quite different than keeping your job, taking paid maternity/paternity leave, raising your own child, and coming back to your position.