Women charged with throwing 4 puppies, killing 2

[bignateyk]

In the history of mankind, has anyone ever tortured puppies yet turned out not to be a sociopath?

In the middle east it's pretty common to abuse dogs.

 

[Duder1no]

Hal9000 is correct.

 

[HAL9000]

Hal9000 is correct.

High five!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

In the middle east it's pretty common to abuse dogs.

Only because of invading American soldiers throwing them off of roofs. Statistics showing that people in the Middle East abuse a disproportionate amount of dogs, plz.

 

[SandEagle]

Terrible what some people will do. How could you even harm a puppy? I'm not even a dog person, but I could not even think about harming one. It takes somebody really crazy to feel ok doing it.

but you don't feel bad when people hunt ducks, rabbits, deer?

Terrible what some people will do. How could you even harm a duck,r rabbit, or deer? I'm not even a duck, rabbit, deer person, but I could not even think about harming one. It takes somebody really crazy to feel ok doing it.

 

[LookBehindYou]

They belonged to her hair dresser.

Why did she have her hairdresser's puppies?

 

[Fausto]

I just get pissed off with the hypocrisy on this forum when it comes to animals.

Dead dog = sad :'(
Dead wild dog = awesome good shot! :awe:

Jesus, you are fucking worthless.

 

[SandEagle]

Are you serious? There is a HUGE difference between a quick, painless death and torturing animals. HUGE.

would you have been ok if she chased them around the yard with a gun and hunted them down instead? i agree too with HAL on this.

 

[highland145]

News Flash:

Troll thrown off the Eye.

Much rejoicing on the banks of the Thames.

Free pints of Scrumpy Jack.

 

[gothamhunter]

So if she kept a trophy of the puppies head it would be fine?

You shouldn't take part of my quote out of context. What I said was:

Most hunt animals for purpose, and keep a trophy behind. She killed them because she's effing crazy.

I don't agree with anyone killing an animal for the lolz, however hunting deer for venison and mounting the head as a trophy - why not?

 

[DougK62]

My mind is just blown that I'm actually having to explain the difference between throwing puppies against a wall and hunting. Hah

 

[lxskllr]

I reluctantly have to side with hal on this one, but only in the narrow case of varmint hunting for sport. Animals shouldn't be killed for amusement. Their death should go to some greater purpose.

 

[Anubis]

My mind is just blown that I'm actually having to explain the difference between throwing puppies against a wall and hunting. Hah

your mind should not be blown by the fact that people troll on this forum

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I just get pissed off with the hypocrisy on this forum when it comes to animals.

Dead dog = sad :'(
Dead wild dog = awesome good shot! :awe:

Wait wait wait.. Why are you getting all bent out of shape over hyprocrisy dude? After all, you're hypocritical about animals as well..

All very good points, I'm not a vegetarian, but I believe eating meat to be morally wrong, I am a hypocrite in this respect, I have no illusions about what I'm doing, I am in my own code of ethics doing something wrong. The distance between me and the kill is irrelevant, it is morally wrong, and I am part of this sinful tapestry, the difference (If there is one) is that I realise what I'm doing is wrong and take no joy in it (other than the physical sensation of my taste buds) but really that's completely irrelevant, it is wrong, to me however eating meat is one thing killing for sport is another. There is a difference (just) in the fact that I take no joy in an animal losing it's life. Both are wrong however.

Important part bolded for emphasis. So you're a hypocrite with animals just as you claim ATOT is hypocritical, yet you tire of their hypocrisy? That sounds pretty hypocritical in and of itself! That's hypocritical^2!!

 

[alkemyst]

It is, this woman killed some small animals out of frustration, some people kill animals for fun/ sport. How is that different?

Wild game/livestock vs pets which is a different 'class' in the US

and cruelty vs proper killing method.

You are an admitted nutter, so we realize you'd not get this.

 

[mvbighead]

I reluctantly have to side with hal on this one, but only in the narrow case of varmint hunting for sport. Animals shouldn't be killed for amusement. Their death should go to some greater purpose.

In most cases, it does.

Population control is one of many reasons.
Food is another.

Throwing an animal against a wall for amusement is not cool. Especially when that animal is not a wild creature.

Hal's rabbit argument... well, there are wild rabbits and there are pet rabbits. Wild rabbits damage crops. That's reason enough for someone to hunt them, even if they don't eat the meat.

Hunting is a part of our history. Throwing puppies or ANY creature against a wall for no other purpose than to vent or release steam? That's fucking insane, and there is no good reason one can have for it. There are other means to end a tame animal's life, and I believe that should start with a humane society.

I wonder why they call it a humane society? Perhaps it's because they don't throw them against walls to kill them?

 

[HAL9000]

You shouldn't take part of my quote out of context. What I said was:



I don't agree with anyone killing an animal for the lolz, however hunting deer for venison and mounting the head as a trophy - why not?

Because you're killing an animal for no good reason, if you are doing it because you need to eat I can understand that, but for fun? Fuck off.

My mind is just blown that I'm actually having to explain the difference between throwing puppies against a wall and hunting. Hah

Still don't get it.

Wait wait wait.. Why are you getting all bent out of shape over hyprocrisy dude? After all, you're hypocritical about animals as well..



Important part bolded for emphasis. So you're a hypocrite with animals just as you claim ATOT is hypocritical, yet you tire of their hypocrisy? That sounds pretty hypocritical in and of itself! That's hypocritical^2!!

That I am

 

[HAL9000]

Wild game/livestock vs pets which is a different 'class' in the US

Why?

and cruelty vs proper killing method.

So if she had shot the puppies in the head it would be fine?

You are an admitted nutter, so we realize you'd not get this.

No I'm not.

 

[LookBehindYou]

My mind is just blown that I'm actually having to explain the difference between throwing puppies against a wall and hunting. Hah

I would stop trying.

 

[mvbighead]

So if she had shot the puppies in the head it would be fine?

I wouldn't call it fine, but it would be less deplorable than throwing them at anything.

It is not uncommon for someone to put a pet down by shooting them. $.50 for a centerfire cartridge vs ~$50 for an injection at the vet.

Both forms of killing are relatively pain free, and reduce the likelihood of prolonged suffering. I would say the vet's method is likely the most ethical, but it isn't very cost efficient.

EDIT:
As for throwing them against the wall... well, I am pretty sure that it'd take a helluva lot more than one attempt to kill the animal. And each attempt is going to inflict a serious amount of pain.

 

[Numenorean]

Women charged with throwing 4 puppies, killing 2

BRADENTON, FLA. — Authorities say a southwest Florida woman threw four young puppies against a wall, killing two of them.

So which is it? More than one woman or just one?

 

[HAL9000]

I wouldn't call it fine, but it would be less deplorable than throwing them at anything.

It is not uncommon for someone to put a pet down by shooting them. $.50 for a centerfire cartridge vs ~$50 for an injection at the vet.

Both forms of killing are relatively pain free, and reduce the likelihood of prolonged suffering. I would say the vet's method is likely the most ethical, but it isn't very cost efficient.

OK, sure so it's just about prolonged pain that makes on method ok and the other not? There's a video posted on here somewhere that shoes a man firing an arrow at a moose, which then dies some time later presumably from loss of blood or organ failure, while hunting, is that less deplorable than what this woman did?

EDIT:
As for throwing them against the wall... well, I am pretty sure that it'd take a helluva lot more than one attempt to kill the animal. And each attempt is going to inflict a serious amount of pain.

True :'(

 

[gothamhunter]

Because you're killing an animal for no good reason, if you are doing it because you need to eat I can understand that, but for fun? Fuck off.

Wait so, were you agreeing with me, or not? I couldn't tell from your response lmao.

 

[mvbighead]

OK, sure so it's just about prolonged pain that makes on method ok and the other not? There's a video posted on here somewhere that shoes a man firing an arrow at a moose, which then dies some time later presumably from loss of blood or organ failure, while hunting, is that less deplorable than what this woman did?

Depends upon your definition of prolonged.

Being someone who actually hunts, I know that the effects of getting shot aren't exactly what you see in the movies. Getting shot does not equal instant death. The moose hunter made as accurate a shot as he could make, and given the tension in such a situation (that moose could really have screwed him up as close as he was) he did a decent job.

So, the moose died likely as quickly (or nearly as quickly) as he would've if a different tool were used for the job. The animal likely died quickly (within a few minutes), of a single shot to the heart or lung area. The pain inflicted would've been outweighed by the adrenaline in the situation (IE - someone breaks their leg, but the pain doesn't set in until some time after).

You can try all you want to compare the two, but the reality is, hunting serves a purpose. Animal cruelty is something altogether different. The only people that don't understand that are people that don't hunt, though some people that don't hunt do understand it. There are many species whose population must be controlled as the growing numbers of certain species can cause harm in a number of ways (including the animal itself). Disagree with it all you want, but if you eat any sort of meat, you're a hypocrite.

Since you've already stated that you eat meat... well...

 

[HAL9000]

Wait so, were you agreeing with me, or not? I couldn't tell from your response lmao.

I'm agreeing with people who kill to survive, survival of the fittest and all that, if the choice is starve or kill an animal, then go for it. If you are doing it because it's fun and to mount it on the wall. Then no.