Women are not born bad drivers

Goosemaster

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Women are, to a larger extent then men, given more leway in commiting everyday errors. If anything, it is a "polite" move by others. With these degrees of freedom, the possibility of error is not as heavily scrutinized as with men. Most male youths get castigated for errors in judgment of followthrough, while females simply get corrected.

Women are not incompetant driversby any means, but we allow it to flourish.


For example, if a woman friend of yours fvks up tremendously and most of the pasengers are female, onaverage, everyone consoles the driver, telling her that at least she is okay. Basically everyone resorts to sympathy and the driver is corrected politely.

In sharp contrast, if a male friend of yours fvks up royally and most of the passengers are male, all hell breaks loose. Not only is the driver castigated to oblivion, but he is taunted and harrassed repeatedly concerning his slipup.

On a simple level, this results in a mental complex that results in more aware drivers, depending on how they are confronted about mistakes. Of course thsi can go both ways, but in general, I have observed the above.

For the record, male drivers who do not get penalized for their mistakes and coast through errors are absolutely HORRIBLE DRIVERS.

<--attempting to explain, in his own words, the origins of "woman drivers suck" without having to deal with a hail of tomatoes or gunfire
 

CRXican

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You are correct. It's all based on the expectations and such that our society places on each gender. These expectations are still very different in many cases.
 

radioouman

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I criticize men and women equally when it comes to driving. Human beings suck as drivers.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: CRXican
You are correct. It's all based on the expectations and such that our society places on each gender. These expectations are still very different in many cases.

The problem is convincing peopel that they screwed up when they aren't used to criticizm.

Hell, I got taken to court because of a pentially bad female driver
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: radioouman
I criticize men and women equally when it comes to driving. Human beings suck as drivers.

I do to. That said, the little we say is drowned out by the trends.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
repost :roll:

at least your take on it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1595996&enterthread=y

yadda-yadda-yadda

the guy shouldn't have been on the ground like that in a parking lot in the first place though. he was an accident waiting to happen.

*see Rudee's post below yours

You jsut proved my point.

I never wrote that man to man castigation was logical or correct. I simpyl stated that it is prevalent, for better, in many case, or for worse.

In this case you defend or at least attempt to identify with the woman in a circumstnace where the man was being stupid.

Most "guys" would hound the sh!t out of the driver even if they were in the right. It is a communial system of checks and balances that assure the driver that they are now aware of what happened, and that they should look out fors something similar, lest tey face more criticizm and a decrease in respect from their friends.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: moshquerade
repost :roll:

at least your take on it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1595996&enterthread=y

yadda-yadda-yadda

the guy shouldn't have been on the ground like that in a parking lot in the first place though. he was an accident waiting to happen.

*see Rudee's post below yours

You jsut proved my point.

I never wrote that man to man castigation was logical or correct. I simpyl stated that it is prevalent, for better, in many case, or for worse.

In this case you defend or at least attempt to identify with the woman in a circumstnace where the man was being stupid.

Most "guys" would hound the sh!t out of the driver even if they were in the right. It is a communial system of checks and balances that assure the driver that they are now aware of what happened, and that they should look out fors something similar, lest tey face more criticizm and a decrease in respect from their friends.
i was defensive, because as per usual i figured you and most guys were going the route of blaming the woman for the accident.
in this case even if a man were behind the wheel, i still would find the guy on the ground stupid for putting himself in that predicament.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Basically, men face the threat of discresed ego if they fvk up. In a situation like this it would have threatened his self-esteem if he had been unaware oif his surroundings to a "T."

For example, analyze the responses if they man had somehow moved out of the way, or she had sered, and nothing had happend, both both were aware if the possibilities.

In the case of the woman, she would be more inclined to do one of two things:

1) act selfish and thank her lucky stars that she is alright
OR
2) stop the car, run over to the man, and make sure he is alright

The the case of a male driver, he would be inclined to do one of two thigns:
1) Act like a dick and go yell at the guy for beign such a "douche"
OR
2)run out to the guy and expresses his insatiable guilt for what could have happened.


As I have commented a few times, castigation would be more prevalent in a make exhange......unless the woman is a real bitch;) j/king
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: moshquerade
repost :roll:

at least your take on it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1595996&enterthread=y

yadda-yadda-yadda

the guy shouldn't have been on the ground like that in a parking lot in the first place though. he was an accident waiting to happen.

*see Rudee's post below yours

You jsut proved my point.

I never wrote that man to man castigation was logical or correct. I simpyl stated that it is prevalent, for better, in many case, or for worse.

In this case you defend or at least attempt to identify with the woman in a circumstnace where the man was being stupid.

Most "guys" would hound the sh!t out of the driver even if they were in the right. It is a communial system of checks and balances that assure the driver that they are now aware of what happened, and that they should look out fors something similar, lest tey face more criticizm and a decrease in respect from their friends.
i was defensive, because as per usual i figured you and most guys were going the route of blaming the woman for the accident.
in this case even if a man were behind the wheel, i still would find the guy on the ground stupid for putting himself in that predicament.

you figured "wrong":p

I am not trying to associate blame. I am simply analyzing the male female psyche and the repurcussions of their mental innerworkings
 

StageLeft

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You may have something there. In any case most women just suck at driving. Per mile driven they do get in more accidents than men except when they're teenagers.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
You may have something there. In any case most women just suck at driving. Per mile driven they do get in more accidents than men except when they're teenagers.

lol.....for saying something as reckless as that moshquerade will fvking firebomb your maxima....

..an exception to the rule...;)


That said, it all goes back to their developmental prcess and how they create their own procedural modules. They react or perhaps act differently based on their expectations. Sort of like how men suck in their gut when a hot piece of ass walks by, how vernacul;ar changes for practically every guy when they walk into unfamilar surroudings (rich boy says "yo")
 

Vic

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Hmm... I think you're right, OP. I used to give my SO a hard time about her driving (which she greatly resented), but the result is that she is a very good driver. Better than most females by far even (hell, better than most males). I really stressed on her the need to be alert and attentive, to think quickly and decisively, and to always have a plan for what to do at all times. So instead she drives with confidence, instead of hunting for the right gear to be in and panicking at the smallest emergency like most females do. Hell, she even autocrosses.
 

Gurck

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I doubt it's social interaction at work.. it could easily be argued that a nurturing environment is more conducive to learning than an abrasive one. I think the reason most women are such piss-poor drivers is that driving requires good spatial reasoning, which is an ability studies have associated with testosterone.
 

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Originally posted by: Gurck
I think the reason most women are such piss-poor drivers is that driving requires good spatial reasoning, which is an ability studies have associated with testosterone.

Interesting.....
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Gurck
I doubt it's social interaction at work.. it could easily be argued that a nurturing environment is more conducive to learning than an abrasive one. I think the reason most women are such piss-poor drivers is that driving requires good spatial reasoning, which is an ability studies have associated with testosterone.
A nurturing learning environment typically does not instill decisiveness or a sense of urgency, factors that are instilled most effectively by instilling an acute sense of the danger of failure and the realization that failure is more likely to be created by the indecisiveness of fear, therefore an effective drive must learn to suppress fear until the moment of danger has passed, and no nuturing learning environment in the world can teach that. A nurturing environment says, "it's okay, you f'ed up, there are no consequences for that, only learning opportunities." But in driving, the actual and real consequences for f'ing up are extreme.
There is so much more to good driving that spatial reasoning. Hell, most drivers don't know that, while cornering, you steer with the gas pedal just as much as with the steering wheel. Or how about this, in a moment of danger with insufficient space to stop, will you be calm enough to quickly find and accelerate through a hole in traffic, or will you panic, slam the brakes, and wreck? Most people slam the brakes, even when their spatial reasoning tells them they can't possibly stop in time.