Woman Sues Over Ticket for Anti-Bush Bumper Sticker

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
While I agree that a message needs to be sent to the police, at the same time it seems like a money grab to me. Emotional distress? Hopefully she donates her proceeds for the case to a worthy cause. If she keeps it, she's a money grabbing whore.

Pretty much, yeah, I totally agree. The officer should be reprimanded. But for her to gain financially from the situation just shows where her true mind is.

This story is a fairly representative example of what is wrong with both the Right and Left in this country.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: BoberFett
While I agree that a message needs to be sent to the police, at the same time it seems like a money grab to me. Emotional distress? Hopefully she donates her proceeds for the case to a worthy cause. If she keeps it, she's a money grabbing whore.

Pretty much, yeah, I totally agree. The officer should be reprimanded. But for her to gain financially from the situation just shows where her true mind is.

This story is a fairly representative example of what is wrong with both the Right and Left in this country.

ok, you just said it better than i did. thankyou!

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: PELarson
1 - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93318

2/3/etc.. - http://www.slate.com/id/2107012

http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/200...approaching-cheney-and-denouncing-war/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670498/posts

lol.. have anything from a major news source? anything unbiased at all?

Perdicted response! Well I agree the Free Republic is a biased source but they do quote the AP.

 

[UberNeuman]

hmmmm... I can see some of these folks back years ago - looking at the woman on the bus and saying: "What's the deal with that loud uppity black woman? She should get up and shut up and give up her seat..."

 

[1EZduzit]

I'm just so sick and tired of hearing about authorities abusing the power given to them in trust, by the public that I think this is a hella good case to use to make an example out of that pinhead policeman.

Throw this clown to the wolves and let the rest of the SOB's that think they can fvck with people take note.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I'm just so sick and tired of hearing about authorities abusing the power given to them in trust, by the public that I think this is a hella good case to use to make an example out of that pinhead policeman.

Throw this clown to the wolves and let the rest of the SOB's that think they can fvck with people take note.

Your new DAMN THE MAN tshirt, sticker, and fridge magnet are in the mail. GL with that whole thing...

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: screech

Originally posted by: jrenz
I hear your wife is a real slut.

quoted for mods

Good, I'll quote it again. QFT this time.

Let me help you with that.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I'm just so sick and tired of hearing about authorities abusing the power given to them in trust, by the public that I think this is a hella good case to use to make an example out of that pinhead policeman.

Throw this clown to the wolves and let the rest of the SOB's that think they can fvck with people take note.

Your new DAMN THE MAN tshirt, sticker, and fridge magnet are in the mail. GL with that whole thing...

I guess us dumb dicks out here in the boonies do things differently then you "high and mighty" military intelligence/police types. You ****** with us out here your going to get ****** with right back. You see, out here we all know every cop and where he lives. If they start crossing the line, ****** will happen and I'm not talking a lawsuit.

We may not have much out here, but we have our freedom and we value it highly.

Oh, and good luck with you whole "bend over and take it like a man" thing.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
hey space cadet, stop sniffing glue! The LAW already prevailed in this case when the ticket was thrown out in court! You see, the justice system and the Constitution actually work regardless of how many idiot cops there are! imagine that!

The fact remains that after the ticket was rightly dismissed, there is no justification for a lawsuit seeking financial damages! it's a frivolous and obnoxious move on the part of the supposed "victim." Will millions of dollars awarded to the lady somehow make up for the ignorance of the cop who issued the stupid ticket? i bet that you can somehow see a connection...

Well, palehorse, you obviously flunked out of your Government classes. There are three parts to a criminal justice system, not one. The police dept/sheriff's dept/any other law enforcement agency in that county is step one of the criminal justice system. The prosecutor/courts are the second step. And every county in the U.S. is reponsible for all three parts of their criminal justice system, not just the parts that they want to be responsible for.

And while I don't live in Georgia, in nearly every state in the Union, it's against the law to either arrest or even just cite someone for breaking a law that doesn't exist. Let me repeat myself, since you don't seem to understand things that most people would, I said it is not legal. Since you can't do what a person would normally do when a law has been broken (call the police), you have to do what this woman is doing, when the police (and the district attorney, in this instance) break laws. What she does with the money is her business. I personally think that she should donate 100% of it to the ACLU.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Craig234
One loudmouth above (not John) posts how because she was found not guilty she should be glad.

I'd like to see him given a ticket for a pro-Bush bumper sticker by a liberal cop who thought any pro-Bush message is offensive, have him go to court, and not complain.

I believe that I resemble that "loudmouth." So, would I complain? sure I would! but I would do so with an editorial in the paper and a letter to the officer's supervisor in hopes of seeing the ignorant officer disciplined. And if that didnt work, I would continue writing letters or posting fliers until something was done.

What I would not do is SUE FOR DAMAGES over the issue! I'm sorry, but there is no justification for this whiny #%#%'s financial lawsuit.

That said, I see nothing wrong with the BUShit bumper sticker, or any other...

"What I would not do is SUE FOR DAMAGES over the issue!"

Well, since you weren't involved, why should we care what you would do? You seem to think your opinion is the end all.. similar to ProfJohn.

don't you mean "similar to everyone posting here"?? or is it that only those of us who often disagree with you shouldnt give our opinions?

typical.

This is an issue of law, not opinion. You can all claim til the cows come home that what was done was justified... Laws and the first amendment say otherwise. If these rights were purposely ignored(like you seem to support), she has every right to sue. Typical.

"who often disagree with you shouldnt give our opinions? "

If your "opinion" is contrary to what is established U.S. law and the first amendment, then yes, please do not waste our time with your "opinion."

hey space cadet, stop sniffing glue! The LAW already prevailed in this case when the ticket was thrown out in court! You see, the justice system and the Constitution actually work regardless of how many idiot cops there are! imagine that!

Nice try attempting to paint me with an unconstitutional brush! I already stated that I couldn't care less what is written on bumper stickers. The only thing in the entire world that genuinely offends me is bonafied ignorance.

what a joke.

The fact remains that after the ticket was rightly dismissed, there is no justification for a lawsuit seeking financial damages! it's a frivolous and obnoxious move on the part of the supposed "victim." Will millions of dollars awarded to the lady somehow make up for the ignorance of the cop who issued the stupid ticket? i bet that you can somehow see a connection...

Being ticketed and being brought to court over something that is knowingly lawful is harassment and abuse of power. Political dissention does not give you the right to harass others because you are in a position of power. She has the right to sue for this very reason. I don't know what you don't get... you won't change your views, so I'll tell you what. You are a supposed military man.. go do something similar.. and if you or your unit get sued, face the consequences, and then come and whine to these forums.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: screech
Seeking damages for emotional distress is moronic, although I think the declaration by a federal court would be fitting. As far as damages against the officer.....he should pay the price of the ticket.

I totally disagree. Police officers should not be sued for enforcing laws.

There was no such law... police get this thing called "training" where they learn laws and their history... this is clearly not under the obscenity or clear and present danger clause of the first amendment... this was therefore done as a form of harassment because of an opposing political view. If the police officer is unable to comprehend current laws, then he should not be a police officer...

 

[jackschmittusa]

I actually find it quite funny that some of the same people that support things like government wiretapping without warrants, claiming "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about", find it so easy to blow this incident off.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
I actually find it quite funny that some of the same people that support things like government wiretapping without warrants, claiming "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about", find it so easy to blow this incident off.

<Bill O'Lielly voice> "Doesn't involve me, so why should I give a sh!+?" </BillO'>

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Grier, a nurse who works at Emory University and other hospitals, also is seeking punitive damages against the DeKalb police officer who gave her the ticket because he "acted with reckless disregard" of her rights, the lawsuit said.

That would be kind of neat if the police officer (a criminal, IMHO) found himself sued into bankruptcy or at least had to suffer the costs of hiring an attorney to defend himself as a result of his own overzealous policing.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Grier, a nurse who works at Emory University and other hospitals, also is seeking punitive damages against the DeKalb police officer who gave her the ticket because he "acted with reckless disregard" of her rights, the lawsuit said.

That would be kind of neat if the police officer (a criminal, IMHO) found himself sued into bankruptcy or at least had to suffer the costs of hiring an attorney to defend himself as a result of his own overzealous policing.

All of those involved in my case should've been personally responsible for the $18,000 in legal fees it cost me.

Georgia has a law on the books that Police Officers and any Officers of the State cannot be sued.

 

[Netopia]

I'm coming into this thread late, but here's my take:

Firstly jrenz, it's possible that I agree with some of your stance, but after your ad hominem attack on Harvey via the comment about his wife, you've lost all credibility. In years gone by, Harvey and I have butted heads and been at each others' throats, but I would NEVER have said anything like that even in our most emotion filled debates. Were I a mod, you'd be on vacation for a bit to cool down.

As for the thread topic. This whole thing sort of sickens me. IMHO, the lady is in the wrong and so is the Court that threw out the obscenity laws. I was recently standing in front of a Baskin Robbins ice cream store with my wife and four children, enjoying a cone, when a car pulled up with its windows down and music blasting. I don't know the artist, but the lyrics contained words akin to "yeah motherfscker, I fscked your biatch and then she sucked my c0ck" or the like. I was LIVID and headed right for the car to have a talk with the driver. My kids freaked out because they thought I was going to get shot or something. Just before I got to the car, the light changed and he pulled away.

What are my re courses as a parent? Is there no such thing as obscenity any more? MUST an individual's right to do whatever they choose come before the decency of a society to protect it's children? Why do we have courts protecting people's "right" to have obscenities in public? Free speech is always restricted for the greater good of the community, yelling "FIRE" in the theatre being the most obvious sort of restriction.

My feeling about this nation is that it was founded on "freedom with responsibility to your fellow citizen". Sadly, I think we have evolved in "freedom at all costs and who cares about anyone else".

More than the lady or the cop or anyone else involved, I find I have the most contempt for the Court that threw out the obscenity laws in the 1990's. This nation is decaying quickly, and it's really sad.

Joe

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Netopia
I'm coming into this thread late, but here's my take:

Firstly jrenz, it's possible that I agree with some of your stance, but after your ad hominem attack on Harvey via the comment about his wife, you've lost all credibility. In years gone by, Harvey and I have butted heads and been at each others' throats, but I would NEVER have said anything like that even in our most emotion filled debates. Were I a mod, you'd be on vacation for a bit to cool down.

As for the thread topic. This whole thing sort of sickens me. IMHO, the lady is in the wrong and so is the Court that threw out the obscenity laws. I was recently standing in front of a Baskin Robbins ice cream store with my wife and four children, enjoying a cone, when a car pulled up with its windows down and music blasting. I don't know the artist, but the lyrics contained words akin to "yeah motherfscker, I fscked your biatch and then she sucked my c0ck" or the like. I was LIVID and headed right for the car to have a talk with the driver. My kids freaked out because they thought I was going to get shot or something. Just before I got to the car, the light changed and he pulled away.

What are my re courses as a parent? Is there no such thing as obscenity any more? MUST an individual's right to do whatever they choose come before the decency of a society to protect it's children? Why do we have courts protecting people's "right" to have obscenities in public? Free speech is always restricted for the greater good of the community, yelling "FIRE" in the theatre being the most obvious sort of restriction.

My feeling about this nation is that it was founded on "freedom with responsibility to your fellow citizen". Sadly, I think we have evolved in "freedom at all costs and who cares about anyone else".

More than the lady or the cop or anyone else involved, I find I have the most contempt for the Court that threw out the obscenity laws in the 1990's. This nation is decaying quickly, and it's really sad.

Joe

"Free speech is always restricted for the greater good of the community, yelling "FIRE" in the theatre being the most obvious sort of restriction. "

Mmm, not exactly... It is based on the clear and present danger clause-fire in a theater. This does not apply here in any way, shape, or form.

For to to approach some guy driving with loud obnoxious music could easily have gotten you into a shitload of trouble... but it is your risk to take. Foolish, especially if you have kids. How about walking away?

"My feeling about this nation is that it was founded on "freedom with responsibility to your fellow citizen". Sadly, I think we have evolved in "freedom at all costs and who cares about anyone else".

More than the lady or the cop or anyone else involved, I find I have the most contempt for the Court that threw out the obscenity laws in the 1990's."

The problem is that it is almost impossible to define "obscenity." What is obscene to one person may be completely normal to another. Unless you want the government restricting everything that even one person might find obscene, it is too ideal to work.

Logic=your friend.

 

[Netopia]

The yelling fire is different as far as cause, but I still feel it shows that not all speech is totally free and unlimited.

With regard to what's obscene, I'm all for whatever is the safest and most restrictive. People can watch/say/do/listen to whatever they want in the privacy of their home, but there should be a restriction on what should be allowed in public. If it can't be said or done in a G rated movie, then it shouldn't be allowed in public. Protecting the innocence of children should come before the indulgences of adults... at least responsible ones.

Joe