Woman saves own pinky

MrMatt

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interesting story....so what is this powder they speak of??

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/09/pinky.regeneration.surgery/index.html?iref=NS1


After running inside from a rainstorm one Friday evening last January, Deepa Kulkarni leaned against the doorway with her right hand to take off her boots. Then, in an effort to make sure the dog didn't get out, someone slammed the door hard, and it landed right on her pinky.

Kulkarni thought the door had only bruised her finger, but then she looked down and saw the tip of her pinky lying on the floor.

"I swooped down and picked it up before the dog got it," she remembers. "At first I was fine, but then I saw the blood -- there was so much blood -- and I felt woozy."

Her husband, Ajit, called an ambulance, and as soon as his parents arrived to take care of their two young children, Kulkarni retrieved her pinky tip from the freezer -- it had broken off just above the base of her fingernail -- and they headed from their home in Davis, California, to the emergency room.


That trip to the hospital was the beginning of a five-week odyssey -- one that involved defying doctors, e-mailing specialists around the country and -- in her words -- being pushy and demanding in order to make her pinky whole again.

"The doctor who was on call at the emergency room told me there was no way he could reattach my pinky," she says. "I didn't like that, so I asked to see a specialist."

An orthopedic surgeon concurred with the ER doctor, and made an additional recommendation: He'd have to amputate even more of the finger so it would heal properly.

"I was like, no way, with so much technology out there, there must be some other way to do this," she said. "But he said he wouldn't even attempt to reattach it. He said was there was a 100 percent chance of failure," she remembers.

Disappointed but defiant, Kulkarni declined the surgeon's treatment, and the doctors sent her home with a bandaged finger and painkillers.

Arriving home at midnight, Kulkarni fell asleep, and the next morning immediately got on her computer. With her nine functioning fingers she searched for hope -- any hope -- that her pinky could be repaired.

Kulkarni, a former human resources manager who is now in law school full time, was accustomed to doing research, but after searching for hours, she still couldn't find any new ideas for reattachment.

She did, however, find something else: stories on "60 Minutes" and "Oprah" about a relatively new procedure called tissue regeneration, which had made amputated finger parts grow back for other patients.

She went to the website for Dr. Stephen Badylak, the University of Pittsburgh physician who helped pioneer the procedure. A little more searching revealed his e-mail address.

"Dear Dr. Badylak," she began. "I am writing to you out of desperation...I ran across your article on the internet and decided to write to you. Can you tell me if [tissue regeneration] works and what my options are to get the treatment?"

She heard back the next day, a Sunday, from one of Dr. Badylak's colleagues. He gave her more details about the procedure, and some bad news: He didn't know of any doctors near her using regenerative medicine.

She e-mailed him photos of her damaged pinky, and he said the team of doctors in Pittsburgh would review them and decide whether they could help her. In the meantime, Kulkarni sent out an all-call in search of a physician near them who used tissue regeneration.

"I e-mailed people at UCLA and Berkeley, and my husband and I called everyone we knew who was a doctor or might know a doctor," she says.

Still, no one had any ideas for her. One friend introduced her to Dr. Malathi Srinivasan, an internist at the University of California-Davis Medical Center, who called Kulkarni from her cell phone while driving home from a skiing trip at Lake Tahoe.

Srinivasan didn't know any doctors with experience in tissue regeneration, but she did give her something Kulkarni badly needed at this point: hope.

"I encouraged her to keep looking, and I did some PubMed searches myself," Srinivasan says, referring to the National Library of Medicine's online collection of research materials.

Seven weeks later, a new pinky

Eventually, Kulkarni made an appointment with Dr. Michael Peterson, an orthopedic surgeon in Davis. At first, Kulkarni says he was hesitant to try tissue regeneration since he hadn't done it before, but she gave him some research materials, and she says eventually he agreed to try it.

The therapy involved cleaning out the finger and removing scar tissue -- a process called debridement -- and then dipping her finger into MatriStem wound powder. After seven weeks of treatment, her fingertip grew back (as shown in the before and after photos above).

"Even now it's not perfect. It's shorter than the other pinky, but just by looking at it you can't tell it was an amputated finger," she says. "I'm able to do everything I could do before. I wash dishes. I cook," she says, adding that she's had physical therapy to decrease tingling in her finger caused by severed nerves.

Kulkarni still keeps her severed pinky tip in the freezer. She thawed it out so CNN could take a photograph of the pinky tip alongside her regenerated finger.

Five lessons learned

Here are lessons Kulkarni learned through her pinky ordeal, plus a few from the doctors who worked with her:

1. Realize your doctor doesn't know everything

"I grew up in India, and doctors there were looked up to as being next to God, and they knew everything and could cure you," Kulkarni says. "What I found out is that even though I like my doctors, I don't have to take every recommendation they give me. I can do my own research."

Srinivasan, the physician who encouraged Kulkarni not to give up, says sometimes doctors don't know about new, cutting-edge treatments being used by other physicians.

"Some doctors are more out-of-date or up-to-date than others," says Srinivasan, an associate professor of medicine at UC-Davis Medical Center who does research on shared decision-making between doctors and patients.

Kulkarni said even when her prospects looked dim, she never completely gave up hope.

"My husband and I are quite pushy, and my husband is smart -- he has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering. We weren't going to take no for an answer," she says.

Petersen, Kulkarni's surgeon, says he's learned from many patients who've come to him having done research on the internet.

"I get a lot of good ideas from patients," he says. "One of the things we have to do as physicians is to listen to our patients."

2. E-mail doctors you don't know

Even though you're a stranger, if you write to a doctor who's a leader in the field, you might get an e-mail in return.

"The doctor from Pittsburgh wrote me back the very next day, on a Sunday," Kulkarni says. "I was so surprised. Maybe I sounded really desperate."

Even if you can't afford to fly out to the expert for treatment, he or she might be able to lead you to a local doctor who can help.

3. Don't be afraid to be a 'bad' patient

Kulkarni said she knows the doctors she saw in the emergency room might have perceived her as an annoying patient when she rejected their treatment options.

"I didn't care," she says. "Imagine if I hadn't pursued other options because I was worried about what other people think -- I didn't want to live with that regret."

4. Be organized

Be fastidious about keeping records. Kulkarni, for example, photographed her pinky at various stages, and she e-mailed the images to various doctors and later to the insurance company to convince them to reimburse her the $1,665 she spent on the drug that regenerated her pinky.

5. Recognize you might be wrong

That treatment that looks perfect on the internet might work for you -- but it might not.

"Sometimes patients are pretty certain through their own research what their problem is and what they need," says Petersen. "It's not up to us as doctors to agree with them. Sometimes part of my role is to guide them that, in reality, that isn't your problem and I don't recommend that treatment."

Learn more about Elizabeth Cohen's book on being an Empowered Patient. Video
 

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Kulkarni thought the door had only bruised her finger, but then she looked down and saw the tip of her pinky lying on the floor.

Jesus CHRIST that made me cringe. Imagine that happening to YOU.

So this 'magical powder' can regrow a completely severed digit tip? WTF?
 
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OUCaptain

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All that just to try and save 1/4 inch of a useless digit... only for only 1/8th of it to grow back? I damn sure hope insurance didn't pay for that.
 

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curious if its going to grow the nail back.

Honestly why would this be any different than it eventually just stumping?
 

mizzou

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it still looks stumpy, but the nail wasn't chopped off.

had nail regrown from knuckle id be impressed, but it was still in tact after the accident
 

Mo0o

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Wow what a waste of time.

Btw, if you happen to chop your finger off, dont put it in the freezer.
1. Wrap it in wet gauze
2. Put it on a bed of ice

This will prevent frost bite and will give surgeons a chance to reattach it.
 

moshquerade

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saw this on the news.... the "regenerated" pinky is shorter than the one on the opposite hand. it looks to me like the stump healed over and the nail regrew. which it would since it wasn't chopped off at the base.
 

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saw this on the news.... the "regenerated" pinky is shorter than the one on the opposite hand. it looks to me like the stump healed over and the nail regrew. which it would since it wasn't chopped off at the base.

snake oil.
 

KB

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Yeah sounds scammy. She would have regrown 1/8 nich of pinky even without the therapy. Thats what healing is all about. If the pinky grew to be the exact same size as it was before then there may be somethign to the story.
 

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I wonder how many people with real diseases have been inspired by this story.


Yes by all mean people, don't believe your own doctors and trust the info you find on the internet that agrees with your own beliefs. Then spend the rest of your miserable life and all your money implementing bogus and unproven cures.


I wonder how many people die every year because they prefer to listen to advise found on the internet instead of relying on their own doctors.

This is sooo stupid, it boggles the mind.
 

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Yeah sounds scammy. She would have regrown 1/8 nich of pinky even without the therapy. Thats what healing is all about. If the pinky grew to be the exact same size as it was before then there may be somethign to the story.

no. she wouldn't have regrown it. it would have healed up as a nub. based on the images, it grew a little bit from where it was severed. that's expected, based on how much time had elapsed since she cut her tip off to when she used the powder. the healing process had already started.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_OI4TtzlDw

this guy is someone who got the powder quickly after the accident, which is why his fingertip regrew.
 

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Extrapolating without fear or well, much in the way of any intelligent discernment, I immediately assume that using 10X the magic powder will yield 10X the results.

Given this new certainty as it now exists in my mind, I have but this to say: Your move, Lorena Bobbit! :biggrin:
 

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Extrapolating without fear or well, much in the way of any intelligent discernment, I immediately assume that using 10X the magic powder will yield 10X the results.

Given this new certainty as it now exists in my mind, I have but this to say: Your move, Lorena Bobbit! :biggrin:

lol
 

HumblePie

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Bleh, I just got a skin graft. We'll see how mine compares although I cut off a lot more than she did.
 

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saw this on the news.... the "regenerated" pinky is shorter than the one on the opposite hand. it looks to me like the stump healed over and the nail regrew. which it would since it wasn't chopped off at the base.

no..this is quite real. healing = scar tissue, not a finger tip.
 

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no. she wouldn't have regrown it. it would have healed up as a nub. based on the images, it grew a little bit from where it was severed. that's expected, based on how much time had elapsed since she cut her tip off to when she used the powder. the healing process had already started.
Actually, I suspect it depends a lot on how far it was amputated, how much bone was lost, and how quickly she heals. If it was mainly soft tissue and there was very little bone loss (and it looks like this was the case), this type of regrowth without any "magic powder" isn't uncommon. Very young children (under age two), can exhibit even more digital regeneration.

Looking at the picture, to my eyes it appears as if the tissue healed over and filled out a little bit. If she lost a quarter of an inch, she grew back an eighth of an inch or so. I suspect had she gone the skin graft route, the wound would have healed much faster but she wouldn't have gotten that eighth of an inch back.