Woman mauled by dogs has leg amputated

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zinfamous

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Shoot the fucking thing in the head?

the bullets will just bounce right off. or, if one even penetrates, the thing will probably keep going if he has man-flesh on his mind.


anyway, though. It's a joke. banning a breed is preposterously stupid. and this isn't a breed problem. For one thing--I doubt most people on here know what they're talking about when they say "pit bull."

...and that makes things far worse for the media and the politicians when they think "pit bull"
 

zinfamous

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I never said I've never seen a dangerous chihuahua. I said I've never seen a dangerous chihuahua kill a man.


Chihuahua's are fiesty bitches.

yeah but he could probably give you a wicked nasty infection, like a monitor lizard, in which you'd die a slow, agonizing death over several weeks of high fever, vomiting, and liquified organs.

or, it could just be rabid....
 

alkemyst

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sarcasm But it's not the dogs that are bad, it's the owners. That breed of dogs is typically very sweet and innocent. I bet the owners trained them to be killers. I have a pet pit bull and he/she wouldn't harm a flea /sarcasm

I have a neighbor with a stupid ass noisy pit bull. It broke through the fence one time and was in my back yard. It was plenty friendly as I went out there and walked it back to their house, but that was before I had kids. I also have a 3 year old and 10 month old. Hearing another story like this makes me angry and nervous.

Not to mention this guy had a ton of pit bull pups at his house...backyard breeders of pitbulls tend to be the worst. They focus on their dog's being the meanest and most ferocious.

It's pretty bad when even the worst of dogs attacks a neighbor. Most dogs know that immediate neighbors are sort of 'almost' part of the pack.

They need to start handing out 10-20-life sentences to owners of dogs that maul people. Maybe start it at 6 months in prison or $60,000 in fines. After any second violation a minimum of 6 months must be served and the owner is denied future dog ownership.
 

Fingolfin269

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They need to start handing out 10-20-life sentences to owners of dogs that maul people. Maybe start it at 6 months in prison or $60,000 in fines. After any second violation a minimum of 6 months must be served and the owner is denied future dog ownership.

That would make too much sense but sadly there's not enough room in jail for these people. You gotta save space for the potheads first.
 

zinfamous

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There are, they don't make the national media circus.

yep. can't hand out a good pitbull story.

though, I'd wager than any burglar that greets a snarling pitbull at the door or broken window doesn't stay long enough to make the news.
:D
 

alkemyst

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That would make too much sense but sadly there's not enough room in jail for these people. You gotta save space for the potheads first.

Not many potheads see jail time though...it's something they do argue though against other crimes.
 

KillerCharlie

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Sure, pitbulls are really nice when they're raised properly. However, you can't deny the fact that different dog breeds were created to have different physical traits and temperaments. Not all breeds are equal. Some dogs were bred to gently retrieve fowl and some were bred to viciously kill large animals.
 

gaidensensei

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It's kind of like chimpanzees and bonobos. They share like 98-99% genetic DNA similarities, yet bonobos are passive and have sex to relieve anger, chimpanzees are hostile when angered and kill things.

People raise chimps thinking they can turn out alright 100%, but in the end they eventually resort to their primitive ways - anyone remember Travis the chimp?
 

purbeast0

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I dont mind that people keep pit bulls.
I mind that the same people who keep pit bulls tend to be inconsiderate jerks and incompetent pet owners and stories like this arent exactly one in a million.

i really think this is a major part of the problem.

pitbulls have the rep for being aggressive and "being badasses" as far as dog breeds go. the ghetto/thugs tend to be the ones who are swayed towards getting these animals and "showing them off" to their fellow thugs/ghetto friends.

i think a lot of it has to do with the shit owners not raising them properly and actually trying to raise aggressive dogs.

when i was growing up, i remember rotwilers (spelling?) being the "tough and aggressive" dogs that were cool to have, and you always heard stories about them attacking people.

now it's pitbulls. i rarely hear about rotwilers attacking people now a days.
 

Anubis

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I never said I've never seen a dangerous chihuahua. I said I've never seen a dangerous chihuahua kill a man.


Chihuahua's are fiesty bitches.

wasent there a story or 2 about little dogs like chihuahuas and such chewing off babies fingers and toes
 

BudAshes

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There's a massive pitbull that is wandering around my neighborhood recently. I thought about telling the owners that they are idiots for letting it roam free. But I know they have a big grow op and I don't know how partial they are to random people coming up to their door.
 

Jeeebus

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I'm not sure a judgment is dischargeable in a bankruptcy, not all forms of debt are, (student loans for example)..

Most likely would be dischargeable in bankruptcy (intentional torts and drunk driving related injuries are usually not).

Even if it wasn't, however, I'm always amused by the people that say to sue for "millions." As was previously mentioned, you can sue for billions or hundreds of billions - even if you got a judgment for that amount, good luck collecting from someone that likely has less than $10,000 in the bank and is underwater on the mortgage on their home.
 

alkemyst

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There's a massive pitbull that is wandering around my neighborhood recently. I thought about telling the owners that they are idiots for letting it roam free. But I know they have a big grow op and I don't know how partial they are to random people coming up to their door.

That's the beauty of this new invention the phone, you can reach out and touch someone.

Personally I would not allow a grow house near me, shut that shit down!
 

SP33Demon

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Why are there never any stories of a home invasion ending in a vicious pitbull mauling? That would be much funner to read that this horrible story.

Pits are very loving if raised properly. Some stories:
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/HeroicPitties/HeroicPitties.htm

One of the more recent:
Dog Shot While Protecting Owner
Pit Bull Shot During Home Invasion Robbery Attempt
WJXT-TV
updated 11:17 p.m. ET, Tues., March. 3, 2009
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A pit bull is credited with saving his owner's life. The dog took a bullet during a recent
home-invasion robbery in Mayport.
The 10-month-old dog named Man protected his master, Mike Thomas, when he needed him most.
"My dog protected all of us. He took the bullet for all of us," Thomas said.
He said he was at home last week with his brother and some friends. That's when, police said, three men
stormed through the front door of the home with a shotgun.
Thomas said the men were wearing masks and trying to rob him.
"I seen like three dudes run up on the porch, and I kind of jumped up. As soon as I jumped up, they ripped
the door open and my dog jumped from sitting beside me all the way to the door and jumped on one of them.
The dude got scared and shot him," Thomas said.
The pit bull scared the intruders before anyone else was hurt. However, the dog's act of courage came at a
large price. The shotgun pellet entered Man's left shoulder, and doctors had to amputate his entire front leg.
Thomas said the Clay County Humane Society preformed the $5,000 procedure for free.

"At first, I was a little -- it just wasn't him because I pictured him with four legs. Now, he's used to it. He still
sleeps with me on my bed. It's all good. I don’t love him any less," Thomas said.
With the help of his owner, Man has adjusted to life with three legs. Thomas said his dog is pain medication
and that the dog's stitches will be removed in a few days.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29472661/

Yet all you hear about are the stories about Pits whose owners are the ones that should be euthanized.
 
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Josh

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It's the way it's raised. Simple as that.

Love, affection, discipline and socialization goes a long way. Look at the history of the breed before you just start spewing bullshit - it was made to PROTECT AND SERVE humans. Attacking a human being goes completely against everything this animal was bred and trained for. Meaning, it's all on the human being abusing and mistreating this animal that makes it lash out or attack.

If you actually read into temperament tests by the ATTS (http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/) you will see that the American Pit Bull terrier actually beats a lot of other breeds in temperament, and they tested the shit out of it (800+ dogs tested).
 

SP33Demon

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It's the way it's raised. Simple as that.

Love, affection, discipline and socialization goes a long way. Look at the history of the breed before you just start spewing bullshit - it was made to PROTECT AND SERVE humans. Attacking a human being goes completely against everything this animal was bred and trained for. Meaning, it's all on the human being abusing and mistreating this animal that makes it lash out or attack.

If you actually read into temperament tests by the ATTS (http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/) you will see that the American Pit Bull terrier actually beats a lot of other breeds in temperament, and they tested the shit out of it (800+ dogs tested).

Wow the Basenji, hotdog, and Shetland sheepdog scored horrible on those tests. Not surprising.
 

wirednuts

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Not many potheads see jail time though...it's something they do argue though against other crimes.


what? marijuana users in the us are treated the same as a pcp addict or serial rapist.... especially the growers. you would get less of a sentence if you killed someone.
 

Genx87

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You're a fucking moron. People buy pit bulls because they have a history of being used for dog fighting and they try to use them to attack/defend people. It's like saying, "Guns are by far the most predominant way of killing people in war. There's no way all of that is due to nations being non super peace loving things, as you'd see those stats more pronounced in other weaponry (like kitchen knives) as well." DIAF already. A lot of people buy pit bulls because they want to train them to be very aggressive.

I've seen plenty of pit bulls that are very nice and lovely. It's the owners that fuck that shit up.

Oh bullshit. You think every pitbull attack in this country is from a dog owned by a wannabe thug training it to be a fighter? This breed accounts for a large % of maulings, killings, and bitings. Avg people own these dogs, treat them well, and they still attack people at a higher rate than other dogs.

It is obvious the breed has a wild side to it that can kick in regardless of training by the owners.
 

RKS

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Oh bullshit. You think every pitbull attack in this country is from a dog owned by a wannabe thug training it to be a fighter? This breed accounts for a large % of maulings, killings, and bitings. Avg people own these dogs, treat them well, and they still attack people at a higher rate than other dogs.

It is obvious the breed has a wild side to it that can kick in regardless of training by the owners.

I think I mentioned this but my cousin has a couple pitbulls. They are extremely lovable, well-trained, and treated very well. I love playing with the dogs but I still won't allow my kids (5&7) around them unsupervised.

I just settled a claim for policy-limits on a pitbull attack. The pitbull came from a 'non-thug' family with a couple of young children, no history of aggression, etc.. On one particular day the pit ran out the front door, chased down my 10 y.o. client and mauled her in a church parking lot.
 

zokudu

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I really got to jump on the train of the owners here. Pitbulls get a bad rap because when people do want an aggressive dog they think pitbull before anything else. Which leads to a large amount of them being used and trained in aggressive manners. I'll bet if you put another breed in the same situation as that dog the same issue would happen. Not to mention I'll bet its making the news because its a pitbull.