Woman Goes to Jail for Not Mowing Lawn

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If you are a resident of Lenoir City, Tennessee, you might want to remember to mow your lawn — otherwise, you will be spending the night in jail.

Karen Holloway just spent six hours in a jail cell for failing to maintain her yard in accordance with the standards set by the city.

The saga began last summer, when Holloway was sent a citation for her overgrown grass and shrubbery. Holloway, who works a full-time job and has two children living at home, a husband in school, and one family vehicle, admits the yard needed some attention but that it just wasn't feasible to do the work.

"The bushes and trees were overgrown. But that's certainly not a criminal offense," she says.

Last week, Judge Terry Vann handed down a five-day jail sentence to Holloway for refusing to comply with the city ordinances regarding yard maintenance, specifically the lack thereof. Holloway feels this was all just too much, saying, "It's not right. Why would you put me in jail with child molesters and people who've done real crimes, because I haven't maintained my yard."

In addition to the severity of the sentencing, Holloway say she also feels that she was bullied during the process because she was never read her rights or told that she could have a lawyer present.

This isn't the first time Holloway has been cited by the city. While her husband was serving in the military and deployed overseas, she was also sent a citation.

On Tuesday, when she stood in front of the court once more, her sentence was reduced to six hours. The judge admitted Holloway is not a criminal, and that this is not a criminal case — but she was still sentenced to jail. Holloway turned herself in Tuesday evening and served her six hours.

Neither the judge nor the police chief have responded with comments.

This is not the first time someone has been sentenced to jail because of the state of his or her property. Linda Ruggles of South Carolina was unable to pay the $500 fine for the loose shingles left on her roof after repairs stalled following the 2008 recession. She spent six days in jail.

As far as Karen Holloway, she's enlisted an army of friends and family to help keep her lawn shipshape. She'll be back in court for a follow-up hearing in November to check on the progress. The judge says he could add more jail time if the city isn't satisfied with her cleanup.

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Damn, I usually mow my neighbors lawn if they need help or it looks like things are getting a little too messy. But thats just me. I care about my neighbors. I just don't understand the logic of this.

People die everyday in Jail too. I guess she and the others they put in jail will be called scum of the earth not deserving of human compassion? You know all those people thrown in jail that are abused and neglected because they are all hard core criminals who don't mow their lawn.. /s
 

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What set of jobsworth busy-body pricks would actually push this to the point that someone gets jailed for it?

Complete waste of everyone's time.
 

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Good commentary and educating story OP; I am happy that you help your neighbors. It's terrible what has happened to this woman and what the bureaucrats could do to her in the future.

I suggest jails be abolished; they are old order and have outlived their usefulness if they ever had any. And legal tender and all other taxes and legislation against freedom to choose mediums of exchange should be repealed so that no one can suffer from fines.
 

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who works a full-time job and has two children living at home, a husband in school, and one family vehicle, admits the yard needed some attention but that it just wasn't feasible to do the work.

wtf. lazy shitheads.
 

Matt1970

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Around here they just come out and mow it for you then tack on a bill plus fines to your property taxes.
 

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You tell me what the difference is.

The State says if you don't mow your lawn they will do it for you and send you a bill and then tack on fines. If you don't pay they will take your home. = Legal extortion

If I say that you don't mow your lawn that I'll mow it for you and send you a bill along with fines. If you don't pay I'll take your home. = Extortion
 

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You tell me what the difference is.

The State says if you don't mow your lawn they will do it for you and send you a bill and then tack on fines. If you don't pay they will take your home. = Legal extortion

If I say that you don't mow your lawn that I'll mow it for you and send you a bill along with fines. If you don't pay I'll take your home. = Extortion

sorta like property tax? dont pay it we take your shit?

mow your lawn and be a responsible house owner or move into an apartment or a house that is not incorporated.
 

Matt1970

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sorta like property tax? dont pay it we take your shit?

mow your lawn and be a responsible house owner or move into an apartment or a house that is not incorporated.

This. Not mowing your lawn is unsightly and can actually lead to others properties values going down.
 

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sorta like property tax? dont pay it we take your shit?

mow your lawn and be a responsible house owner or move into an apartment or a house that is not incorporated.

Yet its not your business whether I mow my lawn or not. Your version of a "responsible house owner" does not give you permission to extort your neighbors.


And yes the same applies with taxes. Seems that you understand the concept just fine but have dismissed the moral aspect just so your neighbors will have mowed lawns....smh

EDIT: and what makes it okay for the State to do, but not you or me? Whats the difference?

EDIT2: I don't expect you to answer the above question as that is a tough one to confront. Well it was for me anyways.
 
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Matt1970

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Yet its not your business whether I mow my lawn or not. Your version of a "responsible house owner" does not give you permission to extort your neighbors.


And yes the same applies with taxes. Seems that you understand the concept just fine but have dismissed the moral aspect just so your neighbors will have mowed lawns....smh

It is when you live in my neighborhood and I have to see it and it drags my property value down. That's why we have codes and ordinances.
 

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This. Not mowing your lawn is unsightly and can actually lead to others properties values going down.
I agree, however life is much easier if everyone try to be good neighbor instead of being Nazi and report/fines/jail theirs neighbor for unkempt lawn. IMHO, this case is a complete waste of resource.

I'm not blowing my own horn here, but as a kid I use to mows my parents lawn, and the next door neighbor lawn weekly (for free, and no one asked me do to it) for at least 5 years. The couple was in theirs 80s and they don't have the strength to mow their lawn or afford to pay for the service.
 

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This. Not mowing your lawn is unsightly and can actually lead to others properties values going down.

What an utter load of shite.

If the value of a property is so dependent on something as fleeting as the condition of a neighbour's lawn, it means the entire market is based on a house of cards.

That's not to speak of why you think you're entitled to demand things of others just so your house might be worth a bit more.
 

Darwin333

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wtf. lazy shitheads.

While I may agree with that, it is most definitely not jail worthy.

But hey, we love nothing more than putting people in jail in this country because we are number fucking one at every damn thing at that includes prisoners.

We have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds prisoners. What do you suppose makes Americans so vastly more predisposed to be criminal assholes than the rest of the world?
 

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What an utter load of shite.

If the value of a property is so dependent on something as fleeting as the condition of a neighbour's lawn, it means the entire market is based on a house of cards.

That's not to speak of why you think you're entitled to demand things of others just so your house might be worth a bit more.

I take it you are not a home owner? Nobody wants to live next to an eyesore.
 

NoStateofMind

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It is when you live in my neighborhood and I have to see it and it drags my property value down. That's why we have codes and ordinances.

It might be a nice neighborly thing to do but there is no obligation to make sure your feelings and property are where you like them.

Yet you do feel its necessary for the State to assess bills and fines for such things. So why not help out your buddy outhouse and explain what gives the State the right to extort money/property/labor but you or I cannot.
 

NoStateofMind

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What an utter load of shite.

If the value of a property is so dependent on something as fleeting as the condition of a neighbour's lawn, it means the entire market is based on a house of cards.

That's not to speak of why you think you're entitled to demand things of others just so your house might be worth a bit more.

:thumbsup:
 

Darwin333

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Around here they just come out and mow it for you then tack on a bill plus fines to your property taxes.

They do that here as well, which is understandable. That is how civil law is supposed to work, throwing someone in jail over not mowing their damn grass is just insanely absurd. The time and money spent by the .gov on all of this horseshit has got to be more than the cost of cutting the damn grass alone.
 

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This is so alien to me I have no words other than What. The. Fuck. What a display of stupidity, both by the cold-hearted judge and by the city for making these "laws" that put hardworking people in jail for being...busy providing for the family.
 

Matt1970

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It might be a nice neighborly thing to do but there is no obligation to make sure your feelings and property are where you like them.

Yet you do feel its necessary for the State to assess bills and fines for such things. So why not help out your buddy outhouse and explain what gives the State the right to extort money/property/labor but you or I cannot.

Because we voted for most of these ordinances and decided the state is better equipped to enforce them. Don't like them, go live out in the sticks or in an apartment. Or better yet, start your own community where you can let the crass grow so high you could lose you car.
 

Matt1970

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They do that here as well, which is understandable. That is how civil law is supposed to work, throwing someone in jail over not mowing their damn grass is just insanely absurd. The time and money spent by the .gov on all of this horseshit has got to be more than the cost of cutting the damn grass alone.

Yep, I like our system. I don't want anyone to go to jail but I also don't want eyesores in my neighborhood.
 

Darwin333

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sorta like property tax? dont pay it we take your shit?

mow your lawn and be a responsible house owner or move into an apartment or a house that is not incorporated.

That does bring up an interesting point. We like to talk about ownership in the US but do we ever truly own our homes if it can be taken away for not paying your yearly taxes?

Around here they did a huge reassessment and a bunch of people on fixed incomes that had been in the same house for 40-60 years quite literally got taxed out of their homes. Keep in mind these people had outright owned their homes for a very long time but because of something completely out of their control were forced to sell their homes or have them taken by the state. To make matters even worse a substantial amount of the increase was due to the homes being assessed FAR above their true value due to the housing bubble. IMO, considering what happened, they didn't own shit. They were leasing it from the state and when the state jacked up their lease payments to a rate the so called home owner couldn't afford the state either evicts your ass.

Don't take me as some asshole that thinks we shouldn't pay taxes, we should. With that said, I do not agree with property taxes. Once I own something it should be mine. Want to jack up taxes on the sale of property or raise some other form of taxes, that's fine.

Being able to take a $250,000+/- asset from someone and selling it to another private party for owing as little as $100 is completely and totally against the tenant of ownership imho.
 

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Overgrown bushes and trees should be a criminal offense imo. It can be a problem to others, it can impede vehicle passage through alley ways and cause problems for utility workers. It also grows through overhead lines, up telephone poles, through fences...etc, etc.
I would seriously love to bust some people in the mouths for the BS i've had to go through at work because some lazy ass doesn't want to keep their stuff pruned to a respectable size. The worst is having to hack through heavy poison Ivy growth just to get to where I need to work.