Woman arrested for trespassing in Knoxville ER

KMFJD

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what the fuck, ER called cops on elderly lady because she was adamate that something wasn't right with her, she suffers a stroke in back of the pigs van, not to worry though, the brave pigs are cleared of any wrong doing...
 
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Pohemi

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Both the police that were involved AND the hospital staff that wanted her removed should be culpible.
 
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pcgeek11

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The Hospital ER should be held accountable as they pronounced her fit and discharged her.

I don't see where the police did anything wrong. She was tresspassing and was arrested. The police don't make medical judgements to override the hospital. I don't think they are qualified.
 

Pohemi

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Police being ambivalent to or ignoring an elderly woman in their custody, in distress, is enough for culpability IMHO.

They might not be medically trained, but you'd have to be completely daft to not realize something was wrong. I'm not medically trained either but I recognize a stroke as it's happening by symptoms. I watched my father go through one, and in her case, it should have been obvious to them if they were paying any attention and not just shrugging her off.

Did they think the slurring was because she was drunk? I mean WTF.
 
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This is a symptom of the healthcare "system" collapse occurring as we speak. The ED has always been a dumping ground for people, and due to the healthcare "system" collapse, it can no longer function as an ED because it's holding dozens or more patients who should be on a different floor receiving non-ED care.

If the patient came in complaining of symptoms not related to a stroke and didn't have stroke-like symptoms while there, they are going to get discharged because there's 50 people waiting for that patient's hallway stretcher in the lobby, and another 10 people sitting on EMS gurneys waiting for that hallway stretcher.

People coming to the hospital for symptoms unrelated to the thing that kills them and getting discharged minutes/days/weeks before it kills them has been happening for decades and will continue to happen, the only difference being it happened on camera because the police were wearing cameras. Full stop.

Collapse is all around us and most people have no idea because they aren't face-to-face with it. Here you got one example of literally thousands of cases where our healthcare "system" collapse costs people their health and lives.

The race to the bottom for increased revenue and profits for rich people who need more money has a cost.
 

TheVrolok

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This is a symptom of the healthcare "system" collapse occurring as we speak. The ED has always been a dumping ground for people, and due to the healthcare "system" collapse, it can no longer function as an ED because it's holding dozens or more patients who should be on a different floor receiving non-ED care.

If the patient came in complaining of symptoms not related to a stroke and didn't have stroke-like symptoms while there, they are going to get discharged because there's 50 people waiting for that patient's hallway stretcher in the lobby, and another 10 people sitting on EMS gurneys waiting for that hallway stretcher.

People coming to the hospital for symptoms unrelated to the thing that kills them and getting discharged minutes/days/weeks before it kills them has been happening for decades and will continue to happen, the only difference being it happened on camera because the police were wearing cameras. Full stop.

Collapse is all around us and most people have no idea because they aren't face-to-face with it. Here you got one example of literally thousands of cases where our healthcare "system" collapse costs people their health and lives.

The race to the bottom for increased revenue and profits for rich people who need more money has a cost.
I agree with this. It's an incredibly tragic affair, but as laid out in the article probably not the fault of the police. If she was discharged, she was legally trespassing if she refused to leave. Whether or not the hospital missed something and is liable is a separate discussion.
 
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Without knowing much about this is it possible she’s one of those folks that go to the hospital multiple times a week for non descript problems?
 

KMFJD

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police did their best eh? she was in pretty fucking obvious distress and they kept trying to throw her in the back of the van, at the end around 1:15:00 where they pull her dead body up by her hair, good police work
 
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