Woman A Leading Authority On What Shouldn’t Be In Poor People’s Grocery Carts

[Rakehellion]

do they have to?

It certainly helps to know what what the fuck you're talking about before speaking passionately on a subject, but it isn't a requirement, so no.

 

[poofyhairguy]

It certainly helps to know what what the fuck you're talking about before speaking passionately on a subject, but it isn't a requirement, so no.

I have known a woman who was on welfare, medicaid AND food stamps. I don't see how this knowledge, or any anecdotal evidence really makes me more of an "expert" on the subject.

I mean, obviously an Onion article isn't empirical data but it is just as useful as a source of generalized statements as "knowing a few people." Again, I don't see how ANY anecdotal evidence can be used to make generalizations.

The best I can figure is you are implying if someone actually knew someone in that situation, then maybe they are less willing so SAY crappy things about that person or class of people online. But that is not a guarantee, especially on ATOT.

Heck if anything the woman I am referring to enforces every almost bad stereotype I could make. I have to remind myself not to generalize for all welfare recipients the conclusions I have made about her.

 

[mikeford]

One issue not mentioned is that many poor folks live in situations where they don't have access to an actual kitchen to cook things like fresh chickens. Also for some stupid reason (at least in Connecticut) buying fresh cooked chicken isn't allowed with food stamps while the TV-dinner kind is just fine?

That is a crock. Anybody that has lived poor without food stamps or other help knows how to cook a chicken on $5 charcoal grill.

Government provided goods should all be basics, store brands etc, but the main thing that needs to be done is to remove the work penalty. If you are poor and work, benefits are taken away, that needs to be ended. Make the benefits basic and available to anyone with no work penalty and people can work their way out of poverty.

 

[kyrax12]

Actually what she's saying makes perfect sense, people on food stamps should not be eating TV dinners, she's right in noting that that person could use that money on a few whole chickens, a bag of potatoes and feed an entire family for 3-4 days. She also noted people with Frosted flakes in their cart, store-brand should be good enough, heck I buy store-brand and it's usually just fine. Also noted was a woman paying with food stamps had an Iphone5, a phone much better than what she uses. Then she was criticizing (and I can't agree more) fat people riding in the store's electric scooters instead of walking the aisles burning off a few calories, then when someone with a real disability needs a scooter all the fatties are using them.

Wait, where did it say in the article that it was specifically an iPhone 5.

 

[HeXen]

Not everyone likes cooking and many enjoy processed, easy to prepare meals enough so that its worth it to them. If I didn't have to work, I wouldn't change my diet either nor would I start cooking, bunch of nazi's for even suggesting such things. You can drop foodstamps altogether and it will only result with more homeless, crime and everything in-between. You can cut their food stamps will not make someone prepare meals everyday that doesn't want to, more likely they would just eat too much of one thing...like mac and cheese without any sides or a huge batch of fried potatoes with no other sides...etc.
Laziness is common amongst any class, from rich to poor.
You're all living in a fantasy if you really preventing think poor people from buying junk would really change anything for the better. If you are hurting that bad on your tax dollars then you should learn to manage your finances.

 

[Rakehellion]

I have known a woman who was on welfare, medicaid AND food stamps. I don't see how this knowledge, or any anecdotal evidence really makes me more of an "expert" on the subject.

I mean, obviously an Onion article isn't empirical data but it is just as useful as a source of generalized statements as "knowing a few people." Again, I don't see how ANY anecdotal evidence can be used to make generalizations.

The best I can figure is you are implying if someone actually knew someone in that situation, then maybe they are less willing so SAY crappy things about that person or class of people online. But that is not a guarantee, especially on ATOT.

Heck if anything the woman I am referring to enforces every almost bad stereotype I could make. I have to remind myself not to generalize for all welfare recipients the conclusions I have made about her.

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[crashtech]

I think it's fair to feel as if gratitude is lacking amongst the recipients of SNAP. Such aid, after all, comes from the aggregated wallets of many mostly good, hard-working people. Not to say that those who bear the burden of funding such programs necessarily need a show of gratitude, as much as a feeling of gratitude might impel recipients of aid to be more circumspect in their use of such assistance. Society in general seems to know less shame than I remember, SNAP beneficiaries being no exception. Perhaps that is a good in some ways, but it is hard for me to shake the notion that when one is essentially relying on other people's money to sustain themselves, emotions such as gratitude and shame might not be entirely out of place, especially in those who have a capacity to contribute but aren't, for whatever reason.

 

[Exterous]

stopped and parked are two different things. I see nothing wrong with what you observed.

Wait - I would think stopped would be better than parked. The card was parked as in in P with the engine off.

It sounds like what we call "standing" in NJ. When the driver is in the car and a passenger gets out to do whatever.

I don't see what the big deal is. Someone is in the car and can move it immediately if there is an emergency. It's not like they're parked there.

Yes it was like they were parked there. You can tell because I said 'parked'. The car was off and this was not for the temporary loading or unloading of person\stuff

 

[Alienwho]

Nothing pisses me off more than when I'm in line at the grocery store and I've got some poor people infront of me with a dozen bags of oreos and pies and when they pay with their food stamps the cashier says there isn't enough funds, so they take off one bag of oreos and try again. Repeat process until it goes through.

 

[Paladin3]

I tend to not worry about what my neighbor is doing as long as it's not hurting me. This way I can feel free to tell him to fuck off if he tries to manage my life. What's on his table is no concern of mine.

 

[Rakehellion]

I tend to not worry about what my neighbor is doing as long as it's not hurting me. This way I can feel free to tell him to fuck off if he tries to manage my life. What's on his table is no concern of mine.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[skimple]

She knows what you eat...

I love this SO much.

A few years ago, my oldest (who is very finicky) was in Kindergarten and was buying lunch almost every day - trying new foods, getting a cookie for a treat if he tried something new, etc.

2 years after the new lunch laws are put into effect and he brings his lunch almost every day because he won't eat what they serve at the school.

The lunch aides were telling me that whole lunches get thrown away, but they aren't allowed to serve the kids anything else.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I was in line at the grocery store on Sunday and it must have been Link card refill day...

The lady in front of me tried for 15 minutes to get the cashier to let her buy energy drinks on her link card. The cashier keeps saying "It won't let me scan it, i'm sorry." "Well all the other stores around here let it, try again." *Tries again 15 times*

Lady with the link card asks to see the damn manager and continues to sit there and bitch about how she can buy energy drinks on the link card at any other grocery store. While this is going on the cashier is putting my items in the cart and the crazy lady comes up and grabs the cart with all my stuff in it and starts trying to walk away. The manager and cashier stop her, so she goes back to asking the lady to try scanning in her energy drinks again...

While she's standing here doing thing I pay with my debit card look at the lady and cashier and say, "That was painless." and walk out...

The lady before her in line paid with a debit card and for 5 minutes tried to get the lady to let her get $200 in cash. The cashier says, this says "you only have $117 in your account."
"Ok, let me withdraw $100 then."
"Your bill was $44, you don't have enough money."
"Then give me as much as you can."

*cashier gives her all the money in her account which she then puts into her coach purse and walks out looking annoyed.*

I seriously have no idea how people are allowed to live like this. I always have more money than I could possibly need in my checking account, and it's most likely due to the fact that I know how to live like a poor person better than an actual poor person. It's the main reason why I have more money than I need.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

All I'm saying is you can eat pretty damn cheaply off of rice and beans.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

Replace food stamps with Soylent. How much they get is based on a free obamacare screening to determine their proper BMI.

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy just thinking about how well this program would be received.

 

[ElFenix]

Food stamps should be administered along the lines of the WIC program. Have a list of eligible food items (mainly staples - no junk food, sodas, frozen meals, etc...). Meat, vegetables, dairy, bread, baking items, cereal, 100% juice, canned veggies/beans/meat, etc... Make sure people don't go hungry, but make sure what they get has some sort of nutritional value. If they don't like cooking meals from scratch, oh well. You can't always get what you want living on someone else's money.

coke, pepsi, frito lay, and the frozen food makers don't want that, so it won't happen.

not to mention cereal is pretty much junk food as well.


and fruit juice is terrible for you too.

 

[BUTCH1]

Wait, where did it say in the article that it was specifically an iPhone 5.

It doesn't, I was assuming it was a top-of -the line smartphone but the point was if your poor enough to need food stamps/SNAP you should not even have a phone that needs a data plan, I use an old-school flip-phone myself, it's not as convenient as a smartphone but it's much cheaper to replace if it breaks and I don't need a data plan.

 

[BoomerD]

this bugs the shit out of me . Fat people parking in handicap spots and then getting those damn scooters.

BoomerD drives his cripple-cart over waggy's foot...and laughs out loud.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

screw food stamps. if you cant feed yourself the government should help, but don't expect to have much choice in the matter.

this would discourage abuse by making the programs less attractive and should create cost efficiencies since the government could by in scale.

at least in my ideal world

 

[Perknose]

He he he, you're taking The Onion seriously?

It would be a huge understatement to say that the irony is lost on these ATOT posters. Even funnier than the article itself. I still don't think they get it.

Starting with the asshole OP, the list of "morally outraged" OT posters right here in this thread who don't get that the Onion article is making fun of them and their petty, piggy concerns about what poor people eat would be mind-blowing if you didn't already know how righteously ignorant these posters are.

OT, here's a little self-awareness exercise for you. See if you can spot your inner asshole in the obviously biting sarcasm of this article's concluding paragraphs.

I'll even bold the parts that point most directly to your right-wing busybody rectum:

“No matter where you go, it always seems like Carol has some amazing new piece of insight about people around her,” said friend Gloria Ferris, who told reporters that she has often marveled at Gaither’s abilities on trips to the mall, the movies, and especially in restaurants. “Whether she’s analyzing exactly how a parent should go about disciplining their child or methodically dissecting the laziness of obese people who ride around in motorized carts, Carol’s on top of it. She just has a gift.”

“If only these people could be as perceptive as she is,” Ferris added.

 

[crashtech]

Yeah, making fun of people who criticize a program that is rife with abuse is sure hilarious, alright.

 

[nehalem256]

Yeah, making fun of people who criticize a program that is rife with abuse is sure hilarious, alright.

Its not abuse. The program is doing exactly what it is intended to do. Poor people are entitled to those gift baskets*!!!!!!!

*so long as they contain at least 50% food

 

[waggy]

BoomerD drives his cripple-cart over waggy's foot...and laughs out loud.

 

[Perknose]

Yeah, making fun of people who criticize a program that is rife with abuse is sure hilarious, alright.

It's more specific. They're making fun of people who small-mindedly fixate and obsess over the stupid, self-defeating food choices of schlub-loser poor people, which is a drop in the tax dollar bucket compared to the mega-billions that the politically connected ultra-rich, huge corporations, and other fat-cat special interests slurp down in the form of tax breaks, pentagon contracts, and other forms of gubmint welfare.

Can you even begin to understand the transparent deflection that goes on, and the ideological ignorance that supports it?

 

[nehalem256]

It's more specific. They're making fun of people who small-mindedly fixate and obsess over the stupid, self-defeating food choices of schlub-loser poor people, which is a drop in the tax dollar bucket compared to the mega-billions that the politically connected ultra-rich, huge corporations, and other fat-cat special interests slurp down in the form of tax breaks, pentagon contracts, and other forms of gubmint welfare.

Can you even begin to understand the transparent deflection that goes on, and the ideological ignorance that supports it?

I don't see how the government paying boeing to build them a stealth plane is in anyway comparable to the government giving people food stamps for doing well nothing. To call the government paying companies to perform services or build goods for them welfare is silly; welfare is getting paid for not providing goods or services.

Seems to me that you are the one deflecting.

The other issue is that you are a failing to construct a viable narrative. Pointing out people using your money to buy themselves Pepsi and Cheetos is a lot more powerful emotionally than complaining that Boeing is only pay $5 billion in taxes instead of the $6 billion you think they deserve to be paying.