Woman A Leading Authority On What Shouldn’t Be In Poor People’s Grocery Carts

[poofyhairguy]

Lots of individuals criticize the eating habits of the poor, but in the end, it does nothing. Why? Because the message isn't conveyed with love.

Lol, no that is not why.

The reason some people on foodstamps (especially those who view it as a way of life and not as a net in hard times) buy junk food is because eating pre-packaged processed food is easy while cooking is hard. If they had the kind of initiative to cook dinner every night then they would probably have enough initiative to get a job.

The real joke is the system, not those who benefit from it.

When you look at the big picture, from the government's point of view, the more unhealthy food bought the better. The faster such people drop dead of a heart attack the faster they are off the public dole and the less health care they will need as a senior (which could cost soceity WAY more than 20 years of candy bars).

It is also a form of corporate welfare. There are many people making good money in marketing whose job it is to fool a percentage of the population into thinking their junk is food. These corporations benefit the most from food stamps, as healthy food such as fruits don't have the brand Coke does.

 

[alkemyst]

The point of the article is to point out how quick we, as a society, are all too often quick to judge. I can go on about how healthy I eat 95% of the time, but the fact of the matter is, I freaking love those $2.50 frozen pizzas found at Save-A-Lot, but in my admittance, it simply proves I am not blameless in my overall decision making. Who am I, therefore, to judge?

I use this point as an example. I do not mean to start a religious conversation. I, myself, am a Christian, but I simply use this point for the sake of the argument. For a very, very long time, Christianity has condemned homosexuality. We often say, "Hate the sin, love the person," but turn right around and do nothing as our own shepherds of the flock carry on with child molestation.

Lots of individuals criticize the eating habits of the poor, but in the end, it does nothing. The poor don't listen. Why? Because the message isn't conveyed with love. I sit here and judge your mistakes when I, myself, am not blameless. Who, then, is going to take me seriously? No one wants to listen to themselves by ostracized by their own kind, so they turn away.

Well your word is one of a Christian and I don't fault you. However; the church does help.

We don't have to love someone that can't make it on their own.

 

[Lounatik]

whaa? they don't have an actual kitchen? sorry to burst your bubble but if you are on section 8 or such part of the law is it has to have a kitchen. that claim is a little far fetched..


the idea on not allowing pre-made food even from a deli is so they don't use it at fast food joints.

Can't use them in fast food joints? Think again : http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/shopping-retail/using-food-stamps-buy-fast-food/nDpDw/

Nice,huh?


Peace


Lounatik

 

[shortylickens]

Lol, no that is not why.

The reason some people on foodstamps (especially those who view it as a way of life and not as a net in hard times) buy junk food is because eating pre-packaged processed food is easy while cooking is hard. If they had the kind of initiative to cook dinner every night then they would probably have enough initiative to get a job.

The real joke is the system, not those who benefit from it.

When you look at the big picture, from the government's point of view, the more unhealthy food bought the better. The faster such people drop dead of a heart attack the faster they are off the public dole and the less health care they will need as a senior (which could cost soceity WAY more than 20 years of candy bars).

It is also a form of corporate welfare. There are many people making good money in marketing whose job it is to fool a percentage of the population into thinking their junk is food. These corporations benefit the most from food stamps, as healthy food such as fruits don't have the brand Coke does.

But if they got jobs they would lose the welfare!!

 

[alkemyst]

Can't use them in fast food joints? Think again : http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/shopping-retail/using-food-stamps-buy-fast-food/nDpDw/

Nice,huh?


Peace


Lounatik

QFT, I travel a lot and have seen on fast food (like major ones), WE ACCEPT EBT.

 

[kt]

Both of you guys are right. We shouldn't sweat the small things so much, but the point he's trying to make is that people push boundaries. That's how we function. The human brain learns by pushing boundaries. We push boundaries in learning, creativity, physical capability, authority, etc. That's why teenagers can be so obnoxious, anti-authority, hate-the-world; because their brains are at a point in their life where they're pushing boundaries and learning to the extreme. Then, they chill out and become adults. But pushing boundaries isn't always a bad thing. We push boundaries on musical creativity, and new genres are born. Not always a bad thing, right?

But you have to understand where the individual you're debating with is coming from. When we push boundaries, one of two things happen: We either learn it's okay to continue that behavior and maybe even get something out of it immediately (positive reinforcement), or we learn that it's not okay (negative reinforcement). If I park in the fire lane for 5 minutes while my passenger rents a Red Box, and no one cares, then I've only learned that parking in the fire lane is okay. And once I've established that it's okay to park in the fire lane, then I can move on to further pushing those boundaries of what I can get away with. Oh sweet, I can park in the disabled parking spots now, right? Park in front of a fire hydrant? Hey, why not. No one is going to stop me.

So for the negative behavior kind of things, sweating the small stuff is important. You are right when you say sweating the small stuff on things like this is vastly different than what caused the housing bubble, but it's exactly this type of behavior that builds up to catastrophic events like the crashing of the housing bubble later on down the road. They start with the small things, and they get bigger, because those boundaries get pushed farther and farther.

It doesn't mean we have to be Nazis about the enforcement of these kinds of things, but it's important that we take the time to point out to individuals that, hey, what you're doing is crossing the line.

This.

 

[waggy]

Can't use them in fast food joints? Think again : http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/shopping-retail/using-food-stamps-buy-fast-food/nDpDw/

Nice,huh?


Peace


Lounatik

well i be dammed. i stand corrected D:

that is just a terrible decision.

 

[alkemyst]

well i be dammed. i stand corrected D:

that is just a terrible decision.

Keep defending their right to eat what they want to eat instead of what they need to eat.

 

[OutHouse]

Ugh - I was at Kroger the other day and someone was parked in the fire lane so the passenger could rent a red box movie.

stopped and parked are two different things. I see nothing wrong with what you observed.

 

[waggy]

Keep defending their right to eat what they want to eat instead of what they need to eat.

i think you need to read the thread alky.. I been saying poor and on foodstamps need to learn to shop right.


also what does me saying that the decision to allow people to use snap at fast food leand you to think i'm defending their right to eat what they want vs what hey should?

lol

they should eat healthy. though i think having a "treat" is also good. I allow the kids to get 1-2 candy bar's a month. though most times they pass and want a giant apple or such.

 

[poofyhairguy]

But if they got jobs they would lose the welfare!!

Depends on how accepting your local community is to welfare and the requirements to stay on it in your state.

So, for example, where I live in Texas it is almost impossible to stay on welfare for more than a few years. To even stay on that long you have to have pretty solid proof that you were trying to get a job the entire time. Food Stamps are done through a card program to reduce the chance for fraud.

Meanwhile back in my home state of Louisiana some people are on welfare from cradle to grave. Others basically make a living off of food stamps fraud with little to no prosecution.

I am not saying one way is better than another (that is for P&N), but simply that looking for a job might allow you to better MILK welfare depending on your location.

 

[Leyawiin]

Food stamps should be administered along the lines of the WIC program. Have a list of eligible food items (mainly staples - no junk food, sodas, frozen meals, etc...). Meat, vegetables, dairy, bread, baking items, cereal, 100% juice, canned veggies/beans/meat, etc... Make sure people don't go hungry, but make sure what they get has some sort of nutritional value. If they don't like cooking meals from scratch, oh well. You can't always get what you want living on someone else's money.

 

[artemicion]

People with enough brains to budget, compare prices and plan cost effective meals, have self control and not buy expensive phones, analyze nutritional information, etc...

...have jobs and aren't on food stamps. So shouldn't really be surprising to see a correlation between making poor decisions and being on food stamps.

 

[crashtech]

Food stamps should be administered along the lines of the WIC program. Have a list of eligible food items (mainly staples - no junk food, sodas, frozen meals, etc...). Meat, vegetables, dairy, bread, baking items, cereal, 100% juice, canned veggies/beans/meat, etc... Make sure people don't go hungry, but make sure what they get has some sort of nutritional value. If they don't like cooking meals from scratch, oh well. You can't always get what you want living on someone else's money.

Lots of bureaucrats get everything they want and more while living on someone else's money. I suppose some feel hypocritical denying the same to food stamp recipients.

 

[OutHouse]

People with enough brains to budget,

i think it more has to do with not giving a shit.

 

[OutHouse]

Lots of bureaucrats get everything they want and more while living on someone else's money. I suppose some feel hypocritical denying the same to food stamp recipients.

lol what?

 

[smitbret]

Food stamps should be administered along the lines of the WIC program. Have a list of eligible food items (mainly staples - no junk food, sodas, frozen meals, etc...). Meat, vegetables, dairy, bread, baking items, cereal, 100% juice, canned veggies/beans/meat, etc... Make sure people don't go hungry, but make sure what they get has some sort of nutritional value. If they don't like cooking meals from scratch, oh well. You can't always get what you want living on someone else's money.

I've wondered this many times.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Honestly when you get down to it eating healthier is much MORE expensive unless done optimally:

-Fruit and produce rarely go on sale like pre-packed items do, and often times unless you buy organic (even MORE expensive) you end up ingesting a ton of chemicals anyway.

-Healthy items like produce and fruit go bad quickly, while prepackaged food and frozen food can sit for months. When you are hauling a pile of misbehaving children to the store in between your minimum wage shifts every trip you can avoid helps.

-If you don't eat leftovers cooking is more wasteful than personal sized-TV dinners. To eat leftovers you need space to store the leftovers, which is hard to do in a tiny refrigerator.

Watch an episode of Extreme Couponing sometime and look at the types of food these people hoard. It is always boxes of fake crap like chef boyardee because that is what goes on sale.

I feel like my wife and I eat pretty healthy with lots of cooked meals, but we have a huge food budget to accommodate that. For us it would be way cheaper to just buy pre-packaged stuff in many cases.

 

[crashtech]

lol what?

Original post edited to provide context.

 

[gotsmack]

Ugh - I was at Kroger the other day and someone was parked in the fire lane so the passenger could rent a red box movie. There were spots less than 20ft from where they parked. Was it really so fucking far to walk that they couldn't park there instead?

It sounds like what we call "standing" in NJ. When the driver is in the car and a passenger gets out to do whatever.

I don't see what the big deal is. Someone is in the car and can move it immediately if there is an emergency. It's not like they're parked there.

 

[Rakehellion]

Even though its an onion article I agree.

That's why I made this thread. The jokes keep writing themselves! :awe::awe::awe::awe::awe::awe::awe::awe:

 

[dank69]

This thread ... I'm speechless ...

 

[Rakehellion]

This thread ... I'm speechless ...

It's all "Poor people...blah blah blah...fried chicken and Cheetos" when 90% of these people have never met anyone on food stamps in their lives.

 

[alkemyst]

It's all "Poor people...blah blah blah...fried chicken and Cheetos" when 90% of these people have never met anyone on food stamps in their lives.

do they have to?

 

[alkemyst]

It sounds like what we call "standing" in NJ. When the driver is in the car and a passenger gets out to do whatever.

I don't see what the big deal is. Someone is in the car and can move it immediately if there is an emergency. It's not like they're parked there.

because you fucktards tend to tell an emergency vehicle to wait a moment.

THAT'S why they have no stopping nor standing signs in a fire lane.