Wolverine movie poll. Did you like it?

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: jonks
I edited my post for clarity. I'm not claiming headshots can't cause amnesia. I'm saying if you want to give someone amnesia, shooting them in the head to bring about that result is a pretty low percentage way of bringing it about, daytime soap operas excluded.

I think they were going for the "getting shot in the head completely destroys the brain, generally causing death, but since Wolverine is apparently invincible, his brain will be rebuilt, albeit from scratch and with no memories," sort of explanation. Which I found as logically plausible as most of the stuff in the movie, so it was fine. Did it make sense? No. But neither does Stryker making Wolverine invincible if his only goal is to kill him. That's just bad science.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
Are they going to make an "Origins" movie for all of the main X-Men characters?

Magneto is the only one that's planned at this point, but I'm sure they'd like to do a few more.

After how bad they fucked up writing Magnetos character in X-Men 3 I'd prefer they didn't even bother.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: jonks
Good to know that shooting someone in the head at close range guarantees amnesia.

I do prefer the idea that the government purposely wiped his brain, but this was a perfectly acceptable movie-style way of explaining the amnesia. "His brain will grow back, his memories won't." That also helps explain why Xavier wouldn't unlock Wolverine's head in X1 - it's not physically possible, the shit's gone.

How many times has wolverine had his brains blown out prior to even getting his adamantium skeleton? How many times before this last one did he lose his memories? And there would be no way of knowing if the bullets would even erase all of his memories or just cause him to forget to ride how to ride a bike...assuming that stupid idea even made sense.

In a universe where magic basically exists, a more acceptable explaination would be that striker shot him with experimental prototype memory blaster ray gun. THAT would have been stupid, but at least made sense.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Babbles
You are way over-analyzing shit here. The way it was explained in the movie makes perfect sense in context of the movie. And, of all things, to bring "scientific" into the equation when discussing a superhero movie is just flat out absurd.

No, you're under-analyzing shit here. A screenwriter had to sit down and write the equivalent of this:

"He needs to forget all about this. I know, I'm going to give him amnesia! Hm, how to accomplish this....I know, I'll shoot him in the head, that's a foolproof way to cause memory loss!"

Given the options I thought up with little or no time spent, this is piss poor lazyass writing.

And don't start with the "it's a superhero movie so anything goes" crap argument. They have rules set up that they have to work within. If Frodo pulled out a gun and shot Gollum ya think it would be acceptable because "it's just a fantasy movie" or do you think some semblance of order is required in order to maintain suspension of disbelief?

LOL...I agree completely. For the money they spent on the special effects and actors salaries...or fuck, even the catering at the opening event, I think they could have hired some one better then your 4th grade cousin to write the script in a movie that cost millions of dollars.

This shit is par for course in big budget movies, but it is embarrassing.

 

[Titan]

Did anyone else think it was stupid that wolvie has to beat up the blob to find out about this island and then Gambit flies him to this secret island with his prop plane from New Orleans to...... 3 mile island. (facepalm) You would have thought he needed to refuel that plane a bit, or they could have just taken the bus and swam there to sneak in.

EDIT: I suppose most people don't know geography these days anyway. Including the writers.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: jonks
Good to know that shooting someone in the head at close range guarantees amnesia.

this was a perfectly acceptable movie-style way of explaining the amnesia

disagree. You can't cause selective amnesia by shooting people in the head. it's dumb. off the top of my head, more plausible ways to accomplish this in movieland:

1. use a psychic mutant to brainwash him
2. use advanced computer technology to brainwipe him
3. super high voltage electrocution
4. massive head trauma (which unintentionally causes memory loss). Falling off that nuclear reactor and landing on his head would have been more plausible an explanation.

How did stryker know an adamantium bullet to wolvie's head would cause amnesia when humans get shot in the head and survive without amnesia? It's not a scientific or even likely result.

You are way over-analyzing shit here. The way it was explained in the movie makes perfect sense in context of the movie. And, of all things, to bring "scientific" into the equation when discussing a superhero movie is just flat out absurd.

I disagree.

It may be a superhero movie but be written at least in a pseudo-scientific way where a watcher with half a brain doesn't smack his head in disbelief at the stupidity.

It's lazy writing......maybe done out of politics or budget reasons.

They should have indeed gone in a different direction that the silly bullet in the head angle.

 

[dr150]

BTW, I think that diamond chick was hot!

 

[DJFuji]

i like how they made maverick asian, silverfox white, gambit non-cajun, and the blob part of weapon X. They should have brought in rogue with a scottish accent.

 

[Kaido]

Just saw it - awesome!!

"Hey blob."

"What?!"

"I saw bub." :laugh:

My only real complaints were the CG claws in the farmhouse bathroom - those looked pretty dang fake - and a bit of the heli chase scene with the hummers where they were shooting the bike but nothing happened to it. Should have at least has the exhaust pipe fall off or something, haha. I feel jipped after reading about the endings - I got the bar scene ending post-credits. We waited all that time and then that lame "I'm drinking to remember line". I wanted the Deadpool scene! :|

That movie was a lot of fun! It's a comic book movie - don't analyze it too deeply and realize they can't make it 1:1 with the comic in 90 minutes and you'll have a good time! Will definitely be getting this on DVD!

 

[Kaido]

Why does Charlie (Lost) always have to die?? haha

And that other dude from Lost, the blob guy, in the beginning he was freaking HUGE! Is that all him? That's either steroids or prosthetics, haha!

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: jonks
Good to know that shooting someone in the head at close range guarantees amnesia.

this was a perfectly acceptable movie-style way of explaining the amnesia

disagree. You can't cause selective amnesia by shooting people in the head. it's dumb. off the top of my head, more plausible ways to accomplish this in movieland:

1. use a psychic mutant to brainwash him
2. use advanced computer technology to brainwipe him
3. super high voltage electrocution
4. massive head trauma (which unintentionally causes memory loss). Falling off that nuclear reactor and landing on his head would have been more plausible an explanation.

How did stryker know an adamantium bullet to wolvie's head would cause amnesia when humans get shot in the head and survive without amnesia? It's not a scientific or even likely result.

You are way over-analyzing shit here. The way it was explained in the movie makes perfect sense in context of the movie. And, of all things, to bring "scientific" into the equation when discussing a superhero movie is just flat out absurd.

I disagree.

It may be a superhero movie but be written at least in a pseudo-scientific way where a watcher with half a brain doesn't smack his head in disbelief at the stupidity.

It's lazy writing......maybe done out of politics or budget reasons.

They should have indeed gone in a different direction that the silly bullet in the head angle.

It was done that way so that it would appear that Striker is the reason for Wolverine's memory loss.

 

[OrByte]

When Legion (Xaviers son) went back in time to kill eric lensherr (Magneto) he changed the course of history and some crazy crystal (mKraan crystal) which once broke and the Xmen fixed ended up breaking again but this time there were no xmen around to fix the damn thing, because histor had changed.

And all the universe was then consumed by this crystal.

And during the course of the crystals expansion and consumption of the universe wolverine and sabertooth (Victor Creed) were fighting each other to the death...as usual. Wolverine plants his fist under Creed's jaw....just like they showed it in the movies....only in the comic....wolvie sends his claws straight through Creeds skull just as the crystal consumes them.

Anyways....the movie bastardized so many things from the comic...but when Wolvie (in the movie) had Creed pinned down on the ground in New Orleans....he should have sent his claws through his damn head.

And when he didnt.....I lost all respect for that movie.

That would have been a good way to clear Creeds brain....which would have been an easy way to excuse Creeds more animalistic nature in Xmen 1...and why Creed and Logan didn't recognize each other.

anyways...im tired...this probably doesnt make much sense...and thats more of an analysis for this movie than its worth...

 

[SilentZero]

It was a decent movie, but I wouldn't buy it on dvd. The worst of the x-men movies thus far imho.

 

[flashbacck]

I saw it last night and didn't like it at all for the various reasons already listed by others. Mostly, there was just nothing that drew me in. It just hops from one action scene to the next, and those weren't even that good.

I really agree with a comment jonks made earlier, "it's a superhero movie" or "it's a fantasy movie" are lame excuses for poor writing.