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thirtythree

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So I have this sudden overwhelming urge to teach psychology classes in high school, but I can't get a license to teach psychology only (at least not through my school or through alternative routes to licensure), there are hardly any jobs teaching psychology (and virtually none teaching psychology alone), and the only other thing I'm mildly interested in teaching is English. I could get an English teaching major from scratch (I'll be completing my psychology degree this December) and then get licensed to teach both, but there are also "a billion" English teachers for each English teaching position. Ahhh! Who knew it was so hard to break into the teaching field. Must be all the money.
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
So you want to teach Psychology to people that don't care?
I loved my high school psychology class. It was an AP class, but I think people who take psychology classes in general generally want to be there.
 

IronWing

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The older one gets, the more "lectures I would love to deliver" will accumulate in his/her head. It is best for everyone if one just sticks with delivering them to the windshield.
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: ironwing
The older one gets, the more "lectures I would love to deliver" will accumulate in his/her head. It is best for everyone if one just sticks with delivering them to the windshield.
Uhh... I wouldn't give those sorts of lectures. I'd teach people about psychology, duh.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: ironwing
The older one gets, the more "lectures I would love to deliver" will accumulate in his/her head. It is best for everyone if one just sticks with delivering them to the windshield.
Uhh... I wouldn't give those sorts of lectures. I'd teach people about psychology, duh.

I based my response on this:

So I have this sudden overwhelming urge to teach psychology classes in high school...
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: ironwing
The older one gets, the more "lectures I would love to deliver" will accumulate in his/her head. It is best for everyone if one just sticks with delivering them to the windshield.
Uhh... I wouldn't give those sorts of lectures. I'd teach people about psychology, duh.

I based my response on this:

So I have this sudden overwhelming urge to teach psychology classes in high school...
It just sounds fun, man. I've been set on being a therapist for over 2 years, but now it suddenly doesn't appeal to me. Curses!
 

BooGiMaN

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please sit down on this couch here...*scribbles notes*...

so when did you first get this urge to teach psychology classes in high school...i see...*scribbles notes*....verty inteeeerestink

so do you touch yourself when no on is around.....oh really...*scribbles notes*....

do you ever catch yourself neffing on forums?......*scribbles more notes*

*looks at scribbles on notepad*...hey i just saved a ton of money by switching to Geico!!
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
So I have this sudden overwhelming urge to teach psychology classes in high school, but I can't get a license to teach psychology only (at least not through my school or through alternative routes to licensure), there are hardly any jobs teaching psychology (and virtually none teaching psychology alone), and the only other thing I'm mildly interested in teaching is English. I could get an English teaching major from scratch (I'll be completing my psychology degree this December) and then get licensed to teach both, but there are also "a billion" English teachers for each English teaching position. Ahhh! Who knew it was so hard to break into the teaching field. Must be all the money.

why do you think you are having so much trouble?
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: thirtythree
So I have this sudden overwhelming urge to teach psychology classes in high school, but I can't get a license to teach psychology only (at least not through my school or through alternative routes to licensure), there are hardly any jobs teaching psychology (and virtually none teaching psychology alone), and the only other thing I'm mildly interested in teaching is English. I could get an English teaching major from scratch (I'll be completing my psychology degree this December) and then get licensed to teach both, but there are also "a billion" English teachers for each English teaching position. Ahhh! Who knew it was so hard to break into the teaching field. Must be all the money.

why do you think you are having so much trouble?
?

Because not many high schools offer psychology classes and everyone wants to be an English teacher, I guess. And the whole not deciding till I'm about to graduate thing.
 

thirtythree

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So I'm thinking about just minoring in English teaching and taking at least 30 English credits (the minimum for acceptance into the Master's teaching program). I'd get my license through the Master's program, so I'd have a Master's degree and be qualified to teach both English and psych classes when I'm done. Think I could get a job then?
 

thomsbrain

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if you have a masters, you can probably make more money teaching at a JC.

personally i'm a psych major, and i will get my masters and LCSW and become a psychotherapist. i have also considered the teaching route, but then i remembered this: all my classes were with the smart kids. the teachers only looked like they were having fun because we didn't give them any crap. i did have one class with the "peons" my senior year, and the teacher (same one i'd had the year before) looked like a completely different person. he was tired, frustrated, and made absolutely no progress with the majority of the kids, because they were rude, didn't care, and let's face it, dumb as fvcking toasters. that really turned me off of teaching. if i'm going to have to talk to 30 brick walls all day, i'm gonna need to get paid more. at least with psychotherapy you have a chance to make a real difference in someone's life and you'll get paid appropriately for that action.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
So I'm thinking about just minoring in English teaching and taking at least 30 English credits (the minimum for acceptance into the Master's teaching program). I'd get my license through the Master's program, so I'd have a Master's degree and be qualified to teach both English and psych classes when I'm done. Think I could get a job then?

yes. i think pretty much all high school psych teachers have to teach another subject as well, because for most schools, it is a one class a day elective. mine was the history teacher. everything i learned in that class went in one ear and out the other and i started out as a CS major, but later switched after i happened to take a random psych class and loved it.
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
if you have a masters, you can probably make more money teaching at a JC.

personally i'm a psych major, and i will get my masters and LCSW and become a psychotherapist. i have also considered the teaching route, but then i remembered this: all my classes were with the smart kids. the teachers only looked like they were having fun because we didn't give them any crap. i did have one class with the "peons" my senior year, and the teacher (same one i'd had the year before) looked like a completely different person. he was tired, frustrated, and made absolutely no progress with the majority of the kids, because they were rude, didn't care, and let's face it, dumb as fvcking toasters. that really turned me off of teaching. if i'm going to have to talk to 30 brick walls all day, i'm gonna need to get paid more. at least with psychotherapy you have a chance to make a real difference in someone's life and you'll get paid appropriately for that action.
You know Master's level counselors don't get paid much, right? Teachers have made more of a difference in my life than therapists.

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