I'm refering to the ones that was posted a little while back (v4161s). Decided to dust off the old SC in the closet and reinstalled it into my main box. Almost (almost) all the gaming issues I had with it are gone. Admittedly, my Audigy is still a little better in the gaming department, but the music/.mp3 playback is as superb as ever. The guess the Santa Cruz is gonna stick around in my main box for a little while longer. My point is, if you haven't tried the new drivers yet, do so. You won't be disappointed.