Witnessing the beginning of the death of 'burbs'?

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic
It's all part of the housing boom over the last decade that spurred a lot of gentrification in the inner cities. Young couples could get more affordable deals buying older deferred homes in the inner cities than they could buying new developments out in the 'burbs. Then they fixed up the old homes with a lot of sweat equity. It became "cool" to live in the city again, and that brought some big money in. It is IMO one of the best things to come out of the boom.

Where should poor old people live?

In dangerous inner city ghettos, according to you it sounds like.

"Poor old people" profited the most. They bought their homes cheap a long time ago and gained some massive appreciation when the young people came in and fixed up the neighborhood.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic
It's all part of the housing boom over the last decade that spurred a lot of gentrification in the inner cities. Young couples could get more affordable deals buying older deferred homes in the inner cities than they could buying new developments out in the 'burbs. Then they fixed up the old homes with a lot of sweat equity. It became "cool" to live in the city again, and that brought some big money in. It is IMO one of the best things to come out of the boom.

Where should poor old people live?

In dangerous inner city ghettos, according to you it sounds like.

"Poor old people" profited the most. They bought their homes cheap a long time ago and gained some massive appreciation when the young people came in and fixed up the neighborhood.

Poor old people don't own their homes. They live, or lived in cheap city apartments that are being converted to condos or seeing rents go through the roof. They are being displaced and have been for years and years by a selfish society that doesn't care, from places they have a social network in and have lived for years and years. Far better, I think, for cities to be designed and owned by the government and scientifically structured to provide cheap living for all peoples in a mix that makes social sense and gives all of us support. Old with young to help car for kids and working folks to care for both. Social unites of about 30 ought to be about right. One kitchen and one area to eat so everybody can save money for other things and eat decent foods. Shared social labor, etc. Far less delinquency, anonymity and social pathologies, crime, etc all around and some meaning to ones life. Everybody will matter and be important to somebody else. Every 30 or so elects one who meets with 30 to elect one on up to president so we get real trickle up.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic
It's all part of the housing boom over the last decade that spurred a lot of gentrification in the inner cities. Young couples could get more affordable deals buying older deferred homes in the inner cities than they could buying new developments out in the 'burbs. Then they fixed up the old homes with a lot of sweat equity. It became "cool" to live in the city again, and that brought some big money in. It is IMO one of the best things to come out of the boom.

Where should poor old people live?

In dangerous inner city ghettos, according to you it sounds like.

"Poor old people" profited the most. They bought their homes cheap a long time ago and gained some massive appreciation when the young people came in and fixed up the neighborhood.

Poor old people don't own their homes. They live, or lived in cheap city apartments that are being converted to condos or seeing rents go through the roof. They are being displaced and have been for years and years by a selfish society that doesn't care, from places they have a social network in and have lived for years and years. Far better, I think, for cities to be designed and owned by the government and scientifically structured to provide cheap living for all peoples in a mix that makes social sense and gives all of us support. Old with young to help car for kids and working folks to care for both. Social unites of about 30 ought to be about right. One kitchen and one area to eat so everybody can save money for other things and eat decent foods. Shared social labor, etc. Far less delinquency, anonymity and social pathologies, crime, etc all around and some meaning to ones life. Everybody will matter and be important to somebody else. Every 30 or so elects one who meets with 30 to elect one on up to president so we get real trickle up.

So why don't YOU buy them a house?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: episodic
http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=78865

Young couples increasingly opting to live in the city rather than the 'burbs'.

High gas costs affecting the younger persons in the country with starting wages? Are people going to be returning to the city in greater numbers as energy prices and costs increase? Has it started?

IF, this article is trying to state there is a new trend, like you propose, they didn't make a very convincing case IMHO.

I see no trend where people are flocking to cities. It's one town with a growth spurt.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Vic
It's all part of the housing boom over the last decade that spurred a lot of gentrification in the inner cities. Young couples could get more affordable deals buying older deferred homes in the inner cities than they could buying new developments out in the 'burbs. Then they fixed up the old homes with a lot of sweat equity. It became "cool" to live in the city again, and that brought some big money in. It is IMO one of the best things to come out of the boom.

Where should poor old people live?

In dangerous inner city ghettos, according to you it sounds like.

"Poor old people" profited the most. They bought their homes cheap a long time ago and gained some massive appreciation when the young people came in and fixed up the neighborhood.

Poor old people don't own their homes. They live, or lived in cheap city apartments that are being converted to condos or seeing rents go through the roof. They are being displaced and have been for years and years by a selfish society that doesn't care, from places they have a social network in and have lived for years and years. Far better, I think, for cities to be designed and owned by the government and scientifically structured to provide cheap living for all peoples in a mix that makes social sense and gives all of us support. Old with young to help car for kids and working folks to care for both. Social unites of about 30 ought to be about right. One kitchen and one area to eat so everybody can save money for other things and eat decent foods. Shared social labor, etc. Far less delinquency, anonymity and social pathologies, crime, etc all around and some meaning to ones life. Everybody will matter and be important to somebody else. Every 30 or so elects one who meets with 30 to elect one on up to president so we get real trickle up.

So why don't YOU buy them a house?

?

You ask that he be generous with his own purse instead of ours? How dare you. Don't you know that he knows what's best for you...for all of us?

 

[Slew Foot]

I hate the city. Too crowded, too expensive, too much crime, etc... Give me a nice quiet suburb about 10-15 minutes away from a city and Ill take it.

 

[magomago]

Probably spent about 15 days of my life total in a city. Just to visit and do stuff...never to live. I've always had the impression that stuff is done in the city, but I find it weird that people manage to live there. I've spent the rest of my life in Suburbs. If I get a job in the "big city" I would probably try to live there. But if I get my own place [ie: urchase rather than rent]...I don't like the idea that I "own" my apartment, but I share the building with others. I like the idea of doing what I want to my house without making sure its fine with the others, or see if it might pose problems to them.. Suburbs for me. If possible I'll try to fly to work....commuting with maybe 15-20 others can actually save money over the 2.5 hour grind.

 

[Kibbo86]

Originally posted by: BoberFett


Funny, cities are often more expensive to live in than the suburbs.

Wow, you mean that when demand goes up, price goes up?!?!?!?!?

You should write that in to someone.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Kibbo86

Originally posted by: BoberFett


Funny, cities are often more expensive to live in than the suburbs.

Wow, you mean that when demand goes up, price goes up?!?!?!?!?

You should write that in to someone.

It was simply a response to duhmcowen's (entirely expected) bleating about how it's the rich people who live in the suburbs. Apparently that went waaaay over your head.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Kibbo86

Originally posted by: BoberFett


Funny, cities are often more expensive to live in than the suburbs.

Wow, you mean that when demand goes up, price goes up?!?!?!?!?

You should write that in to someone.

It was simply a response to duhmcowen's (entirely expected) bleating .

LOL great characterization

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Far better, I think, for cities to be designed and owned by the government and scientifically structured to provide cheap living for all peoples in a mix that makes social sense and gives all of us support. Old with young to help car for kids and working folks to care for both. Social unites of about 30 ought to be about right. One kitchen and one area to eat so everybody can save money for other things and eat decent foods. Shared social labor, etc. Far less delinquency, anonymity and social pathologies, crime, etc all around and some meaning to ones life. Everybody will matter and be important to somebody else. Every 30 or so elects one who meets with 30 to elect one on up to president so we get real trickle up.

Are you posting from Earth Cycle or Hog Farm? Sounds like you dig the commune lifestyle; nothing wrong with that