Without checking the specs, which car is heavier?

[zCypher]

Answer the poll, without checking specs of course. Just to see what the majority of people think, and to see if most or many people are misled or not.

 

[Marshallj]

I'd say the Prelude.

 

[zCypher]

wow, I'm surprised at the results so far. alright, keep them coming

 

[zCypher]

Will post actual specs (including some performance specs) after more votes are cast

 

[AthlonXP]

prelude is a fatty.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

iirc the 01 Prelude weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 3200lbs (not with driver). I'm not sure how much the Camaro back then weighed but I'm guessing probably that much or less

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
iirc the 01 Prelude weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 3200lbs (not with driver). I'm not sure how much the Camaro back then weighed but I'm guessing probably that much or less

it's under 3000 lbs...

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
iirc the 01 Prelude weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 3200lbs (not with driver). I'm not sure how much the Camaro back then weighed but I'm guessing probably that much or less

it's under 3000 lbs...

oops you're right (just checked specs).

 

[zCypher]

The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 4400rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 440rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

prelude standard isn't the SH model.
the SH model is the model with ATTS

standard model is under 3000 lbs ... more like 2965lbs or something


oops read it wrong.

how much does the v6 weigh for the camaro ?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

But it has more than twice as much displacement.

 

[Howard]

And you probably meant max HP at 4400RPM, right?

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 440rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

The 1991 Camaro was one of the heaviest. Quote the weight of the 1987 Camaro.

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 440rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

prelude standard isn't the SH model.
the SH model is the model with ATTS

standard model is under 3000 lbs ... more like 2965lbs or something


oops read it wrong.

how much does the v6 weigh for the camaro ?

Max HP at 440 rpm on the Camaro? Max HP at engine idle? Crazy!

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Prelude was 2954 at one of the sites I checked. And yes, the SH is the top of the line Prelude, not the standard model

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

But it has more than twice as much displacement.

I think not. The standard Camaro of 1991 is a 3.1L V6. 3.1L is not more than twice the displacement of 2.2L. Even the V8 is only 5.0L which is just over double the displacement.

btw yes I meant 4400 rpm it was a typo

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Prelude was 2954 at one of the sites I checked. And yes, the SH is the top of the line Prelude, not the standard model

Damn you people read my post!

I said standard prelude vs standard camaro = same weight

I then listed the top-end models of each car - which do not weigh the same.

both camaro and prelude 'standard' models weigh about 3000lbs (not exactly but they're both very close)

The Type-SH and Z28 models weigh differently, and thanks to the V8 the Camaro out-weighs the Prelude. It more than makes up for that weight.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

But it has more than twice as much displacement.

So? What's your point? When is it a bad thing to have torque? I hope you're not one of those Hondaboys that runs around quoting "per liter power" to make yourself feel better about having no power or torque. My model airplane engine has a hell of a lot of per liter power, but it wouldn't accelerate a car very fast. Neither does a Civic engine.

 

[zCypher]

This is interesting! I post the specs, and more people vote for the Camaro now

Nonetheless, the Prelude is still in the lead. hehe..

omg more people voted for the lude and its still in the lead! hahaha

 

[BatmanNate]

I think you should be clearer as to year and engine model in your poll. That generation of Camaro wasn't very impressive specwise, what's really surprising is the numbers on some of those early 80's Vettes. (compared to their counterparts several decades before and after anyhow)

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 4400rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

The Camaro fattened up a bit more by 2001:

2001-2002 sport coupe comparison

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I think you should be clearer as to year and engine model in your poll. That generation of Camaro wasn't very impressive specwise, what's really surprising is the numbers on some of those early 80's Vettes. (compared to their counterparts several decades before and after anyhow)

I think I was clear enough. Everything referred to was "base model" unless otherwise specified. And it was otherwise specified when the performance specs were posted. I thought it was perfectly clear, but anyhow..

Cam specs not very impressive? What car from the mid to late eighties /early nineties did you find impressive, in ITS pricerange?

I agree, the V6 is nothing to write home about - but you think 200hp/150tq is great in the prelude? bwahaha its OK, but insufficient for its weight. The Z28 cam's V8 is muuuch better suited to a car of such weight, with 300 torque and 230 horses (I believe the WS6 Firebird makes 320 torque and 240hp )

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zCypher
The results aren't as expected, but still... many people think the Camaro is heavier - and I'm sure many of those votes think it's MUCH heavier.

Well, standard Prelude vs standard Camaro = same weight! The V8 Cam weighs a bit more, but it also has exactly double the Prelude's torque.

2001 Prelude SH:
Weight: 3042 lbs.
Engine: 2.2L 4cyl. 200HP / 155ft-lbs
FWD
Max HP at 7000rpm, max TQ at 5250rpm

1991 Camaro Z28:
Weight: 3298 lbs.
Engine: 5.0L V8. 230HP / 300ft-lbs
RWD
Max HP at 4400rpm, max TQ at 3200rpm

The Camaro fattened up a bit more by 2001:

2001-2002 sport coupe comparison

Yes it did! That's okay though. For me, I'll take an 89-model (any year of that model) Firebird WS6 as long as it's a 5-speed 240hp/320tq 305 TPI. Sweetness. I don't care if it's 3000lbs or 3400lbs, its going to rip.