With the democratic nomination all but official, who will be VP?

[beer]

Barring a disaster, Kerry is going to carry the nomination. This is, of course, a disappointment to me, a lot of traits I liked about Dean don't mirror themselves in Kerry. I think Kerry may be more of the same, but if his election means the removal of Ashcroft and the prevention of any conservative justices to the Bench I am all for it.

the question is, now, who will in all liklihood be the VP?

 

[koryo]

Al Franken.

 

[Czar]

I bet on Edwards

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: beer
...and the prevention of any conservative justices to the Bench ...

What is wrong with the Bench - it handled itself OK with Clinton - what has it done wrong under the Bush administration?

 

[smashp]

The Reich would have you believe its Ol Hillary Clinton.

And her first act as VP will be the mandatory castration of all males.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: beer
...and the prevention of any conservative justices to the Bench ...

What is wrong with the Bench - it handled itself OK with Clinton - what has it done wrong under the Bush administration?

If it starts looking like Bush will lose, there are a number of conservative justices that may retire to be replaced with uberright-wing Ashcroft-like fanatics before Kerry takes office.

And as for the recommendation of Edwards, wasn't there a big article run in the NYT about how a Kerry/Edwards ticket was all but impossible?

 

[BugsBunny1078]

General Wesley Clark will be. I already voted for him for Vice President.

 

[DanceMan]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: beer
...and the prevention of any conservative justices to the Bench ...

What is wrong with the Bench - it handled itself OK with Clinton - what has it done wrong under the Bush administration?

If it starts looking like Bush will lose, there are a number of conservative justices that may retire to be replaced with uberright-wing Ashcroft-like fanatics before Kerry takes office.

Would that even be possible? I would think that the Senate would still not be able to confirm them given its current makeup. It's probably going to be a tight race until the end, and they may retire, but then they don't have time for confirmation until the new Congress. I don't think a new president will support the candidates of his predecessor.

 

[burnedout]

With the democratic nomination all but official, who will be VP?

Rudy Giuliani

 

[Nitemare]

Does it really matter?

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: beer
Barring a disaster, Kerry is going to carry the nomination. This is, of course, a disappointment to me, a lot of traits I liked about Dean don't mirror themselves in Kerry. I think Kerry may be more of the same, but if his election means the removal of Ashcroft and the prevention of any conservative justices to the Bench I am all for it.

the question is, now, who will in all liklihood be the VP?

To get rid of Ashcroft and the control of bench appointees, you need to change the make up of the senate and dump the worm Orrin Hatch. This election year will change the make up of the senate and house, but there is not much mention of congressional races yet. The most prevelant story on races that are up this year is the Tom Delay corruption scandle of redistricting in Texas. Getting rid of Tom Delay by criminal indictment works for me.

 

[tallest1]

I really hope Edwards takes the position. Getting anyone else would be political suicide when it comes to votes from the South

 

[jm0ris0n]

I heard on CNN the Kerry camp might try and get Dean :-D

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
I heard on CNN the Kerry camp might try and get Dean :-D

That would guarantee Bush all of the votes South of the Mason Dixon line...they still have not forgotten him referring them to pickup truck drivers with rebel flags on them

 

[zantac]

Richardson or Clark

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: zantac
Richardson or Clark

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
I heard on CNN the Kerry camp might try and get Dean :-D

That would guarantee Bush all of the votes South of the Mason Dixon line...they still have not forgotten him referring them to pickup truck drivers with rebel flags on them

Which is patently incorrect..

.. some of them drive cars with fish on them instead.

The problem is that Dean overestimated the mental faculties of the group he was trying to reach.

(lives south of the mason dixon and desperately needs to migrate)

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
I heard on CNN the Kerry camp might try and get Dean :-D

That would guarantee Bush all of the votes South of the Mason Dixon line...they still have not forgotten him referring them to pickup truck drivers with rebel flags on them

If I remember correctly, the Yankees got their panties in a knot. Not the folks down south. He did not refer to southerners has truck drivers with rebel flags on them. He said he'd like to reach the people who have them.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: tallest1

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
I heard on CNN the Kerry camp might try and get Dean :-D

That would guarantee Bush all of the votes South of the Mason Dixon line...they still have not forgotten him referring them to pickup truck drivers with rebel flags on them

If I remember correctly, the Yankees got their panties in a knot. Not the folks down south. He did not refer to southerners has truck drivers with rebel flags on them. He said he'd like to reach the people who have them.

How much of the vote did he get in South Carolina? Didn't Sharpton get twice as many votes? Southerners dislike Dean worse than they disliked Gore in 2000, getting him would be political suicide

 

[cumhail]

Back when Gore was running for his nomination, I always hoped he'd miraculously get McCain to accept an offer to be VP... This time around, I'm not sure Kerry will go with any of the other still-contending Democrating candidates. Dean ended up like a phoenix; burning brightly for a while, but eventually consuming himself in his own flames. Edwards might have too much pride to accept, even if it's offered (though I think he'd be an asset). Clark wouldn't really add much to the ticket, and having him would just turn into a pissing contest about military experience between Bush, Cheney (assuming he's staying on), Kerry, and Clark. Sharpton? Let's be serious here...

If he's smart, he'll pick someone who will help him pick up voters who he doesn't immediately appeal to, himself, without alienating too many of those he does. Trying to make history by having a "first" whatever (first African-American, first Woman, first Jew, first Muslim, first Hindu, et al.) may well appeal to that minority group; but at the same time, it will drive much of middle-america away from him. So I think he'll probably play it safe and end up choosing someone with a long political history that hasn't pissed off too many conservatives and independents.

So whom do I think Kerry should pick as his running mate ? I'm not 100% sure... but I think Dick Gephardt would be a good choice, so long as Kerry doesn't intend to make Bush's going into the Air National Guard to avoid active duty an issue (and I don't think he does). Gephardt will appeal to middle-Americans and to Americans, in general, who've seen middle-class manufacturing and service jobs disappear. He has a long enough history in politics that people will recognize the name, but has at the same time not been associated with much that's pissed many people off. There's a whole lot I don't agree with him on, issue-wise... as would be the case with anyone, really. But I think he'll appeal to good number of voters, complement Kerry's constituency, and is a generally affable guy who will come off as more appealing in any debates against Cheney (again, assuming Cheney remains Bush's choice for VP).

Just my thoughts,

cumhail