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With leasing your won't have to pay all that depreciation!

ElFenix

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how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?
 
Whoa... yeah. With a lease ALL you pay for (actually finance) is the depreciation plus interest. Contact your state AG's consumer division.
 
Yeah I am getting sick of these commercials. They flat out lie to the public. I called one of the companies and asked him to explain leasing to me, then pointed out where owning a car has many more benefits if you keep it past 5 years. He got pissed and started yelling at me. Guess the truth hurts. Those guys are scam artists.
 
lol, yeah, you wish. With leasing, you pay ALL of the depreciation, and then some! They need a profit in there 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?

You don't own the car when you lease.

When you buy a car you incur the depreciation.

What am I missing?

Not recommending a lease but this in direction towards their advertisement.


 
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: ElFenix
how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?

You don't own the car when you lease.

When you buy a car you incur the depreciation.

What am I missing?

doesn't seem like you understand how a car lease works

when you lease what you pay is the difference between the drive off price of the car and how much they project it to be worth when the lease is done. that difference is the depreciation, and there is no way around that.
 
Oakenfold:

have no material goods after 3 years (or however long your lease term is), hence all you have paid in the depreciation. They take your lease car back and then sell it, thus, you ate the cost of depreciating the vehicle.
 
You don't own the car but you do pay the depreciation on it, which is why used lease cars can be had for cheap. They are misleading the public by focusing on monthly payments and not total costs of ownership. Of course the monthly payments are going to be less when you ALWAYS have one, versus paying a car in 4-5 years and then having it payment free for another 4-5 after that.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: ElFenix
how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?

You don't own the car when you lease.

When you buy a car you incur the depreciation.

What am I missing?

doesn't seem like you understand how a car lease works

when you lease what you pay is the difference between the drive off price of the car and how much they project it to be worth when the lease is done. that difference is the depreciation, and there is no way around that.


he could be saying that since you don't own the vehicle you cannot technically be paying for depreciation, you are paying the owner some amount of money a month which is usually calculated by seeing how much the car depreciates in the term length.
 
The way a lease *basically* works is say a car has a sale price of $20,000 and a residual value of 50% after 3 years, 36,000 miles.

So, at the end of the lease the car has depreciated $10,000. You are accountable for $278 a month (10k/36) + the money factor (interest rate) + the sales tax on that payment. And then any security deposits or up front payments that they require.

 
Although in reality that is what you are paying, technically you are renting the vehicle. Since you didn't buy it and you aren't selling it, there is no depreciation. Misleading advertising, but not technically incorrect.
 
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: ElFenix
how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?

You don't own the car when you lease.

When you buy a car you incur the depreciation.

What am I missing?

doesn't seem like you understand how a car lease works

when you lease what you pay is the difference between the drive off price of the car and how much they project it to be worth when the lease is done. that difference is the depreciation, and there is no way around that.


he could be saying that since you don't own the vehicle you cannot technically be paying for depreciation, you are paying the owner some amount of money a month which is usually calculated by seeing how much the car depreciates in the term length.


Exactly.
No ownership= no depreciation loss.
Leases are still rip offs however.


 
In training for auto sales, I was taught what I already knew: that the lease payment is depreciation + "rental fee." Mostly depreciation though.

It's a full on lie you heard on the radio.
 
that is splitting hairs, as far as i'm concerned. especially since having someone pay you for the depreciation of your asset means you (the owner) aren't paying for it.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
that is splitting hairs, as far as i'm concerned. especially since having someone pay you for the depreciation of your asset means you (the owner) aren't paying for it.

Right. The depreciation is being paid for by the leasee. Who else pays for it? It doesn't just poof into thin air. BTW, when you rent a car, the bulk of that money is depreciation cost also. Rental companies sell those cars past a certain point of value, and who do you think pays for the depreciation on them? The customers of course.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
that is splitting hairs, as far as i'm concerned. especially since having someone pay you for the depreciation of your asset means you (the owner) aren't paying for it.

Uh, I thought we were focusing on the language of the commercial.
You are digging too deep here for the common public as they don't think like this.
😉
They want to advertise to get leases, not to drive people away, tell me why do they want to tell people please pay for the dealerships depreciation?

You are trying to state what a lease is, we aren't questioning that, you are questioning the language right?





 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
that is splitting hairs, as far as i'm concerned. especially since having someone pay you for the depreciation of your asset means you (the owner) aren't paying for it.

advertising firms split hairs, what do you expect?
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
how are they allowed to advertise this on the radio? when leasing a car what you pay IS depreciation (plus some interest rate, of course)! they are outright lying! who can i complain to to get a fine slapped on these guys?

you do have a point.🙂
 
Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: redly1
on a similar note, anyone want to take over my lease?? 🙂



fools and idiots lease...
and i do not resemble either of those, you on the other hand.....

😀

<-- Ducks head in the sand and regrets signing lease papers
 
Originally posted by: redly1
Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: redly1
on a similar note, anyone want to take over my lease?? 🙂



fools and idiots lease...
and i do not resemble either of those, you on the other hand.....

😀

<-- Ducks head in the sand and regrets signing lease papers

Live and learn, as long as you learned that's all that matters.
Everyone gets expensive lessons in life, think the number is somewhat staggering for leases too so you aren't alone.



 
I agree that the wording for lease deals are misleading, however:

1) If you consistently get a new car every 2 years
And
2) You stay below the allowed mileage

It?s highly possible that you could save money by leasing.
No matter what your opinion, you need to do the math and use your brain.
 
Originally posted by: Wozster
I agree that the wording for lease deals are misleading, however:

1) If you consistently get a new car every 2 years
And
2) You stay below the allowed mileage

It?s highly possible that you could save money by leasing.
No matter what your opinion, you need to do the math and use your brain.

Precisely why we went with a lease. And in the realm of Minivans ~$300/mo doesn't buy sh!t. Best I was seeing was vans with 60K+ miles, and that mileage is just about the time you get nickle-n-dimed with batteries, brakes, tires, and so on. I still think it was a smart move for us to lease. Only problem is, we've recently reevaluated our goals and decided we can live with something much older, less attractive and possibly less reliable.
 
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