With a new 4k TV how do I find 4k content?

cmdrdredd

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I have Netflix with the Ultra HD option added and Amazon Prime but is there a way to actually find what content is available in 4k? I try searching for 4k and there's only a few things that pop up, the same for amazon video. Netflix has a heading that lists some things in UHD that do not pop up in any of my searches. I'm really looking for someplace I can get a listing of all the content in 4k on these services. Whether it's a 3rd party site that keeps track or the provider's site doesn't matter. They really need to make it easier to find actual 4k content on these services than it currently is. I do realize that there isn't a whole lot available right now, but I know they offer more than I can find through my searching.
 

purbeast0

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you aren't getting "real" 4k content from netflix or amazon just fyi. it's compressed to shit and you are losing quality. 4k right now is useless as there is no content.

you want real 4k content, record it on your own with a gopro or other camera that supports true 4k.
 

poofyhairguy

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There honestly isn't a lot, even if you go through not so legitimate channels (ie piracy). Most of the content is either time lapsed photos, things like movie trailers, GoPro video and the little bit that Neflix has. Next year should bring 4K Blu Rays which will be the real start of it. The real problem is that HEVC support isn't widespread enough and 4K h264 uses too much bandwidth.

The best use for a 4K tv today is to hook it up to a PC with a GTX 960 or better and allow MadVR to upscale your 1080p content to look better than it does on a 1080p Tv.
 

nickbits

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you aren't getting "real" 4k content from netflix or amazon just fyi. it's compressed to shit and you are losing quality. 4k right now is useless as there is no content.

you want real 4k content, record it on your own with a gopro or other camera that supports true 4k.

Netflix's 4k of their own shows look pretty good. Definitely better than ATSC quality and a bit better than blu rays.
 

razel

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Wholly agree to poofyhairguy. Right now 4K content is primarily gaming. For non-games, once you get 4K, don't expect to be wowed like going from SD to HD. 4K is what's still being used at your local digital movie theater. In fact in some smaller multiplex screens near Hollywood, good old 1080p can still be the source of smaller independent films and it still looks great. Picture quality is better than at the $3 budget theaters.

There is also a new pic standard coming down the pipe that employs wider color gamut and also standardizes 4K. I wouldn't buy anything 4k display/hardware-wise until that's agreed on. Luckily with 4K players, those are always updatable.

To answer your question though, 4K content that started was sourced (recorded or film scanned) @4K I've only seen off YouTube. I'm tried Amazon and only found 4K tests/promos. Nothing you really want to watch. You will also need the Internet bandwidth if you are not getting 4K. They will not tell you this immediately.
 
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Netflix's 4k of their own shows look pretty good. Definitely better than ATSC quality and a bit better than blu rays.

Agree. My fiancee and I bought a Samsung JS8500 this weekend and once I got it up and running the 4K content from Amazon was very impressive. That being said, I still prefer my F8500 - excellent 1080p plasma > good 4k LCD, at least to my eyes.
 

purbeast0

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Netflix's 4k of their own shows look pretty good. Definitely better than ATSC quality and a bit better than blu rays.

yeah i've heard it looks slightly better than bluray, but the sound on it is still garbage compared to bluray.
 

Insomniator

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You still don't even get real 1080p quality unless you go Blu-Ray or pirating.

Blu-Ray rentals for a dollar from Red Box still look noticeably better to me on my Panasonic Plasma (even with it being a cheap Costco model). Streaming really doesn't come close yet, and I'd imagine 4k to be even further off.

I'm not a even a serious video/audiophile, but its definitely worth it to me get a Blu-Ray to watch instead of Netflix when possible.
 

cmdrdredd

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you aren't getting "real" 4k content from netflix or amazon just fyi. it's compressed to shit and you are losing quality. 4k right now is useless as there is no content.

you want real 4k content, record it on your own with a gopro or other camera that supports true 4k.

I watched some 4k + HDR movies from MGo(not streaming, have to download to USB 3.0 HDD) and they are absolutely better than 1080p Blu-Rays of the same movie. Amazon's UHD stuff is a bit better than the blu-ray IMO and I will say that Netflix is sharper than their Super HD 1080p offerings but still slightly below the blu-ray.

It's not UHD Blu-Ray quality or the quality I would get from recording 4k on my own no, but some of it is a very big step up from normal HD content.

You still don't even get real 1080p quality unless you go Blu-Ray or pirating.

Blu-Ray rentals for a dollar from Red Box still look noticeably better to me on my Panasonic Plasma (even with it being a cheap Costco model). Streaming really doesn't come close yet, and I'd imagine 4k to be even further off.

I'm not a even a serious video/audiophile, but its definitely worth it to me get a Blu-Ray to watch instead of Netflix when possible.

It's for convenience more than anything else. I buy blu-rays of movies I want to have but as I said...there are services that are a step up from 1080p Blu-Ray and noticeably so. Especially the MGo UHD movies with HDR.
 
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cmdrdredd

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Wholly agree to poofyhairguy. Right now 4K content is primarily gaming. For non-games, once you get 4K, don't expect to be wowed like going from SD to HD. 4K is what's still being used at your local digital movie theater. In fact in some smaller multiplex screens near Hollywood, good old 1080p can still be the source of smaller independent films and it still looks great. Picture quality is better than at the $3 budget theaters.

There is also a new pic standard coming down the pipe that employs wider color gamut and also standardizes 4K. I wouldn't buy anything 4k display/hardware-wise until that's agreed on. Luckily with 4K players, those are always updatable.

To answer your question though, 4K content that started was sourced (recorded or film scanned) @4K I've only seen off YouTube. I'm tried Amazon and only found 4K tests/promos. Nothing you really want to watch. You will also need the Internet bandwidth if you are not getting 4K. They will not tell you this immediately.

The TV I have is the Samsung JS9000 series with HDR support and all that. I don't think there will be any problems supporting the new color modes with UHD Blu-Ray. After all Samsung was the first one to actually show a UHD disk player a couple months ago. So I'm not worried about that. As for the internet I'm set. I have 150Mbps downloads with no cap.

4K Blu Rays are going to blow what Netflix is doing off the map.

I don't think anyone here doubts that. I'll buy one when they are available next year though.
 
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poofyhairguy

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I buy blu-rays of movies I want to have but as I said...

Have you tried upscaling one yet via MadVR?

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1080p with basic linear upscaling on the left, high-quality 4K upscaling on the right. NNEDI3-64 rocks when you got power.
 
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13Gigatons

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The Roku 4 has a category for finding 4K content. So far it list 133 movies.
 
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gus6464

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Atmos is now supported on Vudu starting today with some titles like Mad Max and Edge of Tomorrow. If you want to give your sub a workout Edge of Tomorrow is where it's at.