Wisconsin voters moving to recall vote on Republicans.

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Craig234

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Look what you made me do...

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Wow, they did it AGAIN? 'The news as you right-wing nuts want it to be', better slogan.
 

FuzzyBee

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Jan 22, 2000
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Says who?

It appears that 25% of the people who voted in his election are needed for the recall vote to take place, and then a simple majority on that vote, though I haven't confirmed that.

That's about 540,000 signatures - not small, but when there are over 100,000 people at one protest in the capitol, not too hard to see how the could get it, either.

More importantly, they can NOW do it for 8 Senators on his side.

I don't think Craig realize that people bused in from other states can't vote to recall Wisconsin's governor. Perhaps Rachel Maddow should mention that.
 

matt0611

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You're projecting.


See?


"Getting rid of rights" doesn't mean "totally getting rid of rights".

If the government passed a law you can't criticize any Democrat, it's taking away your right to free speech even if you can still criticize other parties.

Wow, could you come up with a worse analogy?

Bargaining requires two parties to voluntarily agree on something. You have no right to make your employer submit to your will, you have no right to require all people join your organization and pay you dues from their paycheck on condition of employment. You have no right to force your employer to bargain with you collectively if the employer doesn't wish to etc
 

Craig234

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Wow, could you come up with a worse analogy?

Yes, since this one is excellent, though you don't understand it.

To review: YOU made the error to say that because they can still collectively bargain SOMETHING under the Republican plan, that's not taking away their right to collectively bargain the OTHER THINGS they now can, but could not under the plan.

The analogy pointed out to you how leaving PART of a right while taking away other parts is still removing the other parts, and your statement that the Republican plan is 'not taking away rights' is wrong. You did not understand the point.

Bargaining requires two parties to voluntarily agree on something. You have no right to make your employer submit to your will, you have no right to require all people join your organization and pay you dues from their paycheck on condition of employment. You have no right to force your employer to bargain with you collectively if the employer doesn't wish to etc

You have changed the topic from your claim 'you're not taking away their rights' to 'you're taking away their rights, but I don't think they should have the rights'.

You simply don't understand the word 'collective' in 'collective' bargaining. That's where the power of it comes from. 'Individual bargaining', which you seem to argue is the same thing as you just shorten the name to 'bargaining' and attack any of the differences between the two, is less powerful - but it is now a right, and one the Republicans are attacking.
 
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matt0611

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Yes, since this one is excellent, though you don't understand it.



You have changed the topic from your claim 'you're not taking away their rights' to 'you're taking away their rights, but I don't think they should have the rights'.

You simply don't understand the word 'collective' in 'collective' bargaining. That's where the power of it comes from. 'Individual bargaining', which you seem to argue is the same thing as you just shorten the name to 'bargaining' and attack any of the differences between the two, is less powerful - but it is now a right, and one the Republicans are attacking.


No its actually a terrible analogy.

This law effects the terms of negotiating wages and benefits of people the state employs and is totally within the law and constitution of the united states to do. It does not take anyones "rights" away. Again, the right to dictate to your employer how your wages will be negotiated does not exist.

To compare it with outlawing speech is complete intellectual absurdity.
 

feralkid

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Jan 28, 2002
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I set Mama's boy up and owned him bigtime, now he's crying about it, though he was gloating when he thought I couldn't prove my time in service.


Hardly.

You were proven to be ignorant of what Bail enforcement officers actually do.

Then rather than just admit your error, you claimed to have worked with one.

Proven to be in error, you diverted to how well you served your country, as if that somehow excuses your earlier ignorance.

You posted a photo-shopped Naval Discharge cert expecting anyone to believe it.

Now you flail about in a hissy-fit and toss feeble insults because no one believes your b.s.


No honorably discharged serviceman in his 50's would behave so atrociously, IMHO.
 

zsdersw

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I set Mama's boy up and owned him bigtime, now he's crying about it, though he was gloating when he thought I couldn't prove my time in service.

Odd that he needs you to take up for him. Are you two like a item?

You're not acting any better than he is.
 

rockyct

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Jun 23, 2001
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lol, I love this thread. For all I know both of them are 15 year olds living at home, but I don't care, this is hilarious either way
 

Londo_Jowo

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I live at home, the one I'm paying for at the moment. I also have another house in Indonesia and have several acres of prime farm land to boot.

As for my age, I'm old enough to set your young ass up and then own you.
 

techs

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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117472988.html

Get some REAL info directly from WI. There are not nearly enough people who are against him to recall him.

"In an automated survey of 800 Wisconsin voters taken Wednesday by Rasmussen, 43% approved of the job Walker is doing and 57% disapproved."

Now where is this OVERWHELMING majority you speak of who disapprove? From what I see, more disapprove than approve but it's far from overwhelming and from from what you need to recall someone.

An election that was decided 57 percent to 43 percent IS the actual definiton of a landslide.