Wisconsin recall elections today

[Double Trouble]

The two dems did their duty.

They opposed the betrayal of the voters with the appropriate actions.

In your world, "doing your duty" as a senator means .... running away and hiding in another state? lol.

From what I've read, one of those two dems is likely to fall. That means when all is said and done, the entire union effort, millions spent, rallies and the entire push to show how the people were going to fight back and so forth will result in one (meaningless) seat gain. Wake up man, the reality is that the people for the most part are just not buying the union "an attack on the union is an attack on the middle class" bullshit.

 

[Thump553]

I love how the righties spin this as a crushing defeat for the dems. The GOP lost two seats and came within a hairbreath of losing another, the governor is on the run and the GOP big bucks secret backers had to spend millions of their dollars to do so. And there are thousands of newly invigorated Dem volunteers.

 

[JockoJohnson]

I love how the righties spin this as a crushing defeat for the dems. The GOP lost two seats and came within a hairbreath of losing another, the governor is on the run and the GOP big bucks secret backers had to spend millions of their dollars to do so. And there are thousands of newly invigorated Dem volunteers.

Did the Dems get 3 seats? No. So they didn't complete their objective. Pretty simple. People came out to vote and voted no against public unions.

When the Dems waste more money on Walker's recall and then lose again, will they stop there? Probably not. Nothing like constantly wasting tax payer money to go against the will of the people. Great way to have the tyranny of the minority stop the majority.

 

[Craig234]

Did the Dems get 3 seats? No. So they didn't complete their objective. Pretty simple. People came out to vote and voted no against public unions.

No, actually they didn't. All these districts elected these Republicans by larger margins on average last time; if they were voting "no against public unions" the margins would grow.

They didn't. They shrunk - and enough for two to recall them.

Your version is like saying when a President has an approval rating, then adopts a position, and as a direct result his approval rating drops 5 points, "the people supported his position" because of the smaller number who still support him. No, that's not what is accurate at all. His position hurt his support; the question is just how much. Republican margins were on average half this time what they were last time, the report I heard said.

When the Dems waste more money on Walker's recall and then lose again, will they stop there? Probably not. Nothing like constantly wasting tax payer money to go against the will of the people. Great way to have the tyranny of the minority stop the majority.

Irony of the week award for the filibuster abusing Republicans to whine about that.

 

[JimKiler]

Clueless. Ya, issues like salary and benefits used to be issues in our society, but now they aren't any more. Employers automatically will always give top compensation now.

Why, the fact that when unions were strong, Americans shared in the economy's growth, but in the last 30 years when they're weaker it's all gone to the top - coincidence.

Employer-worker negotiations no longer get any benefit by collective bargaining. Clueless.

By calling me clueless you insult me. I no longer wish to engage in a discussion with you since you are too emotional to be rational. I was even going to defend you saying unions did help the middle class against Gigantopithecus post.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I love how the righties spin this as a crushing defeat for the dems. The GOP lost two seats and came within a hairbreath of losing another, the governor is on the run and the GOP big bucks secret backers had to spend millions of their dollars to do so. And there are thousands of newly invigorated Dem volunteers.

It is a crushing defeat. After all the outrage, the protests, the massive amount of money spent.. they could only pull of stealing 2 seats, and not by very many votes. If you look at the overall picture it becomes even more clear:

Republican votes: 184,328
Democrat votes: 165,130

There is no outrage against Walker or the Republicans. The R's had about 53% of the overall vote to the D's 47. It pretty much reflects the split in the state. The people are voting exactly as they did a year ago. And this is given HEAVY media coverage and tons of outside money being involved.

The two districts that swung to the D's were not in areas known to be Republican districts and they D's won one of them barely and the other by about the same margin as what the overall vote was for the Republicans.

The Republicans still control all 3 branches of Government in WI.. after next week we'll find out if their majority in the Senate is 1 seat or 2 or 3 seats. The fact the the R's control all 3 is pretty remarkable considering a year ago Wisconsin had a Democrat governor, and a Democrat controlled Senate I believe. 2.5 years ago the state went easily for Obama and other Democrats.

That is a pretty big swing in 2 years.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Tell me again how Scott Walker policies are working? As Walker is bought and paid for by the Koch brothers. Do you really think the people are that dumb? But point granted they are temporarily, but they will wise up soon, and that is the important end point.

The spirit of Pete Wilson marches on.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/127269673.html

or just keep ignoring reality...

 

[Ausm]

Ah yep my union dues

Complaining about???? Pissing away money.

How about all the money the Rethugs flush down the shitter by having elections with fake Democrats,Voter ID registration and the new Redistricting bill Walker just signed?