Wisconsin Gov. Walker is crying in his beer tonight.

[Lithium381]

Reids shenanigans in the senate WILL affect more people than this WI issue, because once you take the ability of the republicans to stop the stupid shit that goes on in the Senate away, they will affect ALL americans

 

[dmcowen674]

That's too bad, he was making improvements.....

Schultz said he opposes it because he feels voters who elected him should have the say on whether Walker is recalled.

Your version of "improvements" is the destruction of the country and Schultz knows it.

Looks like Schultz wants to be around a while.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Schultz said he opposes it because he feels voters who elected him should have the say on whether Walker is recalled.

Your version of "improvements" is the destruction of the country and Schultz knows it.

Looks like Schultz wants to be around a while.

Care to talk specifics?

 

[Double Trouble]

This is a good thing. There should be no changing of the rules just because "your" man is in office. If Mr. Walker is recalled, well, I don't agree with it, but that's life in the big leagues.

Exactly, no shortsighted changes just because it benefits one side or the other. I support Walker 100%, he's made the changes that needed to be made, but if that means he pays the political price then so be it.

 

[Ausm]

If you can't see the difference in the two scenarios, your blindness is willful. Recall petitions and subsequent elections don't occur unless the target has grievously offended a fairly large segment of the electorate. That's entirely different than parliamentary grandstanding.

Reid handled it wrong. McConnell sought to suspend the rules so that the raw Obama stimulus proposal could be attached to the China currency bill as an amendment, which requires a 2/3 majority. Reid should have allowed that, called upon his entire caucus to vote for it, then called for cloture and a vote on the amended measure. Repubs would have been forced to filibuster, caught in their own trap. He then should have entertained a motion from the floor to remove the amendment, which would have passed by majority vote. It's not like Repubs ever wanted the measure to pass, and we both know it.

Either that way or the way Reid handled it would have arrived at the same outcome, which can't be said for what Wisconsin Repubs are trying to accomplish.

They're running scared, rightfully so, and it shows.

QFT

Recall elections are very rare and Democrats just don't go out to Recall any Republican Politician this can be illustrated by Tommy Thompson (R) who was our distinguished Governor from 1987-2001.

 

[Ausm]

Schultz said he opposes it because he feels voters who elected him should have the say on whether Walker is recalled.

Your version of "improvements" is the destruction of the country and Schultz knows it.

Looks like Schultz wants to be around a while.

Sate Senator Dale Schultz represents this district adjacent to mine and he also did not side with Walker's original Union Stripping Bill.

The man can read the writing on the wall

 

[Ausm]

Why do I get the strong sense that you devote a lot of time to your avatar image?

Either he'll win the recall or he'll lose the recall.

I really don't see what is so evil about Walker. Nothing he is doing is anything that cannot be undone the next time a new governor is in office.

Either (A) his plans are a total failure and they are undone immediately after the next election, or (B) his plans are overall a success for the state and stay enacted.

These aren't systematic changes he's enacted that are very difficult to undo. It's very easy to undo any of his actions to date.

Are you afraid of him? Or do you just like getting angry at others after drowning yourself in beer?

Dude your're a Moran commenting on issues you have no clue about please move on....

 

[Genx87]

Autism is just licking his chops at the idea his kids will have less money to be spent on their education and more spent on cadillac benefits for unions.

I will also be laughing at the thought of him crying in his beer if the recall measure fails.

 

[cliftonite]

Autism is just licking his chops at the idea his kids will have less money to be spent on their education and more spent on cadillac benefits for unions.

I will also be laughing at the thought of him crying in his beer if the recall measure fails.

Autism? How clever and original.

 

[Ausm]

Autism? How clever and original.

The best thing to do is to put that troll on ignore

 

[Genx87]

The best thing to do is to put that troll on ignore

Yeah I trolled by asking questions about his own consistency. Ausm and Craig are great examples of people who cant stand questioning of their arguments.

 

[Ausm]

This message is hidden because Genx87 is on your ignore list.

Silence is bliss.....

 

[Londo_Jowo]

This message is hidden because Genx87 is on your ignore list.

Silence is bliss.....

LMAO!!!! Now Gen87 can own your ass without worrying about any rebuttal from you. Just like many in here do with McOwned.

 

[Ausm]

LMAO!!!! Now Gen87 can own your ass without worrying about any rebuttal from you. Just like many in here do with McOwned.

OWN my ass? I doubt it...especially trying to pwn someone without worrying about retort is lame in itself.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

OWN my ass? I doubt it...especially trying to pwn someone without worrying about retort is lame in itself.

So in other words you aren't ignoring his posts. Pretty fucking lame to post that you're ignoring someone when in fact you're still reading their posts.

 

[Ausm]

So in other words you aren't ignoring his posts. Pretty fucking lame to post that you're ignoring someone when in fact you're still reading their posts.

Umm only reading them through other peoples quotes and I think it isn't lame at all to make sure that I let GenX87 (aka the person who would argue with a potted plant) know his rants fall on deaf ears. If you can't handle it ....oh well???

 

[PokerGuy]

Umm only reading them through other peoples quotes and I think it isn't lame at all to make sure that I let GenX87 (aka the person who would argue with a potted plant) know his rants fall on deaf ears. If you can't handle it ....oh well???

Doesn't matter if you're reading them through someone elses post or not, you're still reading them. So, his rants are not falling on deaf ears, just stupid ones.

 

[Genx87]

Doesn't matter if you're reading them through someone elses post or not, you're still reading them. So, his rants are not falling on deaf ears, just stupid ones.

Interacting with Ausm was like arguing with somebody who had the intellectual capacity of a potted plant. So I guess he is somewhat correct.

 

[khon]

This is a good thing. There should be no changing of the rules just because "your" man is in office. If Mr. Walker is recalled, well, I don't agree with it, but that's life in the big leagues.

+1

 

[CPA]

Republicans do seem to rely on the idea that the electorate has the attention span of fruit flies...

And on the idea that they can change the rules to suit themselves whenever they have even the slightest majority in govt, particularly when the changes entrench their power over the electorate.

Thank You, Mr Schultz. Honest Republicans are hard to find. If Walker and the rest of Wisconsin Repubs hadn't been such arrogant pricks, they wouldn't have these problems.

Sort of like the Dems have tried to do with filibuster rules, right?

Please, they all work under the premise that voters have short attention spans and long-term memory lapses.

 

[Ausm]

Doesn't matter if you're reading them through someone elses post or not, you're still reading them. So, his rants are not falling on deaf ears, just stupid ones.

Please stay on topic there is no blood left in the water

 

[Ausm]

Sort of like the Dems have tried to do with filibuster rules, right?

Please, they all work under the premise that voters have short attention spans and long-term memory lapses.

Tried is the key operative word here which is punctuated by the GOP's blatant abuse of Filibuster during the 111th and 112th Congress.

 

[fskimospy]

Sort of like the Dems have tried to do with filibuster rules, right?

Please, they all work under the premise that voters have short attention spans and long-term memory lapses.

Do you really think the Senate's filibuster rules don't need changing? You realize that states which comprise as little as about 12% of the US population can stop all legislation, right?

 

[Ausm]

Do you really think the Senate's filibuster rules don't need changing? You realize that states which comprise as little as about 12% of the US population can stop all legislation, right?

He likes how the minority can control the majority I guess?

 

[trenchfoot]

This is a good thing. There should be no changing of the rules just because "your" man is in office. If Mr. Walker is recalled, well, I don't agree with it, but that's life in the big leagues.

Agreed. What you have acknowledged is, to me, the most important point in this whole thread, something that others in here don't seem to recognize.

It doesn't matter what party is doing the recalling. What does matter is that the voice of the people not be muted or tampered with via legislative trickery and shenanigans.

As an aside, considering the disingenuous way Walker apparently brought his hidden agenda to bear where his campaign for governor made no mention that his intention was to gut the public unions bargaining rights as far as he intended to, the voters who felt Walker deceived them are completely justified in wanting his being recalled. See conclusion in the following link:

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...sin-gov-scott-walker-says-he-campaigned-his-/

Legislating their will against the democratic process only highlights and reinforces the appearance of dishonesty the Repubs are willing to employ toward accomplishing their agenda against Wisconsin's public unions.