What it seems it hasn’t taught you is that religion is also a means to escape that, which like everything else gets corrupted by the self hate it was created to cure.
But from time to time some do escape, and more by religion than any other way. This does not mean that religion is the best way for you. It just means that what religion does for some people can’t be other than invisible to you.
You see what you believe and you believe all religious belief is phony. This is commonly held as a consensus among non religious people because it is mostly true. That belief, however, works against you when it comes to having any faith in your own potential. For that reason and only that reason I challenge your assumptions.
I grew up rather wild went to church but little, but for reasons I find difficult to explain fell in love with Christ’s egoless perfection, a perfection I learned to loath myself for because I could not match it even remotely when I looked at myself honestly.
So, when I came to the same realization you have, that religion is a joke, the loss of my faith came at the price of aching emotional emptiness. It is that that a person of deep faith in God’s goodness and love can step right over. And I think it is a sin to mock that.
But if you can’t go that way, no need to worry. Surrender to God’s will creates an egoless state, but so does the acceptance of meaningless emptiness. God is when you are and you are when what you imagine is you is not. To be empty or full is the same thing. You can actualize or wash away the dirt, become or mirror the universe. And even a brief glimpse will change everything, or so I believe for reasons.
There is a difference between knowing you have been traumatized and reliving traumatic events. The former allows you to understand and realize why you might react negatively to some event, the latter allows for a cure.These things don't go unnoticed. It's more of what makes a bigger impression on society. Some people hiding from zealots, or maybe the zealots do...
Not so sure about that. I can understand the allure of a belief system that answers the obvious existential questions from sentient beings, and maybe some of the relying so fully on that belief system that you would harm others or yourself for potential rewards which just further fuels the self-righteousness felt while judging others.
You're right in the fact that just belief in itself, while was enough for a child, is not enough for adult me.
What assumption? Be specific. So far, I've only stated something backed up by 1000's of years of human history.
Sure, Christ's ego was slim, but his dad is an egomaniac.
None of this really affects my original assertion, just feels like you're trying to blame me for paying attention in history class and during my upbringing in evangelical indoctrination.
I read and comprehend much of what you state about self hate, as I also came to such realizations long ago. Much of that was due to the same oppressive religious upbringing.
I think that is already happening... what you wanna do is unfuck it.Seriously, fuck this country.
There is a difference between knowing you have been traumatized and reliving traumatic events. The former allows you to understand and realize why you might react negatively to some event, the latter allows for a cure.
No child can survive consciously feelings of worthlessness and self loss caused by being put down. Those feelings are suppressed and an ego or self image that one is in conformity to the norms of our guardians takes its place. I don't know what to call this but I call it ego identification, a belief that the self we imagine ourselves to be is really OK. We are good and our goodness is based on the fact that we believe in what we were told is the good and all questions that imply there may be something wrong with us bounce off of that. We are protected from negative feelings by this ego commanding self, this thing we imagine ourselves to be that has no real reality. It is the unconscious assumption of who we are and consists of out belief and that what we believe is the good.
You, for example, assume that the understanding of history you hold is actual history. You believe that God is an egotist. You have a whole world view that creates who you imagine yourself to be. These I call our sacred cows, the wonderful lies we tell ourselves that constitute what is good. Well, when all of those sacred cows I believed in died, so did I. If you lose all that you imagine you are what is left is that which can't be taken. What is it that can't be taken? I am done here because I have no wish to do anything but offer. Nor looking for an argument.
Maybe the Dems should tell their voters to stay home and not vote this cycle. Let the covid take care of the problem. Then next cycle (assuming the virus is gone) well have a lot less conservatards to vote....
Seriously, fuck this country.
That was the gop plan.
The main draw is a democratic primary, and they would rather expose Ds to danger rather than protect them. Probably hope they catch the virus and die before getting a chance to vote in November.
This is beyond incompetence, it's an outright attack.
Anyone voting in an R district, maybe even just acting as a volunteer, please show up and fake coughing and splattering and don't wear a mask.
A fever and shaking would be a nice touch.
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Trump has already come out against nationwide mail in voting. He told Fox that it would mean a Republican would never again win an election. More than one Republican at the state level has publicly stated it would be a disaster for conservatives.But will the roles reverse in November? You can bet Trump will attempt to do this to hold on to power.
