Wis. Girl Victimized by Sexual Assaults

[halik]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Johntk5
Honestly if you where 15 and a cute 11 year old girl offered to give you a blow job,you think it should be a crime to say yes.

hell yes it should be. but good to see you are at least uping the age.

11 is bit young I'd say....

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Johntk5
Honestly if you where 15 and a cute 11 year old girl offered to give you a blow job,you think it should be a crime to say yes.

hell yes it should be. but good to see you are at least uping the age.

11 is bit young I'd say....

well beats the 8yr old he was talking about.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Johntk5

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Johntk5
FYI I am not some pedophile. I never had sex with a little kid, I am just saying it shouldn't be illegal if both people are under 18.

17 year-old one month away from 18 and 2 year-old?

I said consenting. A 2 year old can't consent.

But in order to consent don't they need to understand what they are doing?

 

[Johntk5]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Johntk5

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Johntk5
FYI I am not some pedophile. I never had sex with a little kid, I am just saying it shouldn't be illegal if both people are under 18.

17 year-old one month away from 18 and 2 year-old?

I said consenting. A 2 year old can't consent.

But in order to consent don't they need to understand what they are doing?

An 11 year old understands what a blow job is, if she ask to give one. Same with an 8 year old.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Johntk5

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: Johntk5
If she was willing the teens shouldn't be charged. They didn't do anything wrong.

She is only 11 years old Fvck lets hope you dont breed

There is lever on the side of your skull, pull it down and flush the sh!t out of your head

It is teens having sex, and doing what teens do. They are under 18, and sex between two people under 18 should be legal IMHO. A 17 year old and a 10 year old shouldn't be illegal, even a 16 year old and a 8 year old should be legal IMHO.

I would expect the kind of person who makes statements like that to be a person who derives pleasure from looking at, participating in or fantasizing pedophelia.

I am not saying you are, but a statement like that is one that leads people who are of normal phsychologial operaating capacity to call into question your motives and behavior.

At the very least you are a complete idiot.

 

[Johntk5]

Then how young can a 15 year old go then? Is a 12 year old ok to have sex with, what about a 13 year old.

 

[KillerAngel]

Originally posted by: Johntk5
FYI I am not some pedophile. I never had sex with a little kid, I am just saying it shouldn't be illegal if both people are under 18.

Maybe not by your screwed up definition of the word.

 

[Dean]

Johntk5

Not only do I hope you get banned, but I also hope a caring mod reports your IP and posting behavior to law enforcement so you can at least be monitored online. I find your posts so unsettling, I want to vomit.

 

[Johntk5]

Originally posted by: Dean
Johntk5

Not only do I hope you get banned, but I also hope a caring mod reports your IP and posting behavior to law enforcement so you can at least be monitored online. I find your posts so unsettling, I want to vomit.

:ugh:

I never have sex with someone under age. I am over 20 years old. That 40 year old man should be charged.

I have no desire to have sex with someone under 18 either.

 

[Johntk5]

I am not saying what they did isn't wrong. I am saying it shouldn't be illegal.

 

[MrsBugi]

Originally posted by: Johntk5
I am not saying what they did isn't wrong. I am saying it shouldn't be illegal.

It is. The laws are in place for a reason, as they should be. If a 6-year-old "wanted" to give you a blow job and you let him/her, should that be illegal? At what point is a child old enough to make sound decisions? Obviously this varies by child, but when it comes down to it, the law has a duty to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

Here are the official "Reporting Guidelines for cases involving sexual activity between minors and between minors and adults" in the state of CA.

Regarding voluntary sexual activity and no other factors indicating child abuse (i.e. neglect, abandonment, pedophilia, predatory criminal intent, etc.), the following acts are illegal and a child abuse report is required by law:

1. If the child is under 14 years of age and the other party is 14+,

2. If the child is under 16 and the other party is 21+,

3. If the child is 14 or 15 and the other party is 10 years+ older than the child,

4. If the child is under 18 and the other party is any age if there is rape or incest.

Reporting is NOT legally mandated if the two parties involved are under the age of 14, if conduct is voluntary, and participants are "of similar age" (i.e. both 12 or 13).

Reporting is also not legally mandated if both parties are 16+ and the behavior is voluntary sexual intercourse.

This story made me very sick and sad. The 11-year-old girl obviously has other issues, maybe identity issues, attention-seeking tendancies due to abuse or neglect at home, a history of molestation or sexual abuse, etc., but regardless of all of that, she is an 11-year-old girl.

To put things into perspective, here are pictures of some 11-year-old girls:

Girl 1

Girl 2

Girl 3

Girl 4

 

[MrsBugi]

In contrast to that, here are some 15/16-year-old boys:

Boys 1

Boy 2

Boy 3

(all of the above pictures of 11-year-old girls and 16-year-old boys were found by typing "11 year old girl" and "16 year old boy" into Google images)

Even if consentual, do you think that it should be legal for any one of those girls to be having sex (oral or vaginal) with any of those boys?

If there are any 16-year-old males who happen to be reading this post, would you accept a blowjob or any sort of sexual service, even if voluntary, from any one of those 11-year-old girls pictured above? Would you feel it was wrong if you did, or would you feel it was okay?

 

[nissan720]

I must say either way where were the parents of these children. Where was the owner of the house.

I am only 22 but I can remember that my parents would never have left me home with a big group of kids they did not know over.

 

[n7]

Wow, Johntk5 has dug a big hole.
And he keeping digging deeper.

 

[doze]

Some people here are probably just trying to argue for the fun of it, bottom line it's just plain wrong.

Now if it was the 16 year old girl giving out BJ's then that's another story.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's interesting, but if you read between the lines, there is some doubt as to how much of a victim she might be. For example:

The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.

The 16-year-old told police that the 11-year-old had told her she wanted to perform oral sex on the boys in the house. The 16-year-old denied encouraging her.

Calling it a "sexual assault" by 20 boys may be legally correct, but doesn't necessarily reflect the actual situation. It sounds like she was willing and even possibly enthusiastic.

and who the hell called the police?

My guess: The boys bragged about it, word got around, and an adult found out. That's what happens with kids, because they usually don't have the self control to contain a situation like this.

The thing I object to is the media portraying this "assault" as an act of "violence", when it appears that it was more or less consensual (in so far as 11-15 year old kids can "consent"). There appears to have been no violence here, and no coercion. However, I wasn't there, and so I don't know the story, and thus I don't judge.

The 40yr old, however, was very much in the wrong to be a part of this.