Wiring my house, what to do???

[TJN23]

so I'm trying to wire my house to install an ethernet jack and a phone jack in the same mount on the wall. I'm using two separate CAT5 cables (one for the ethernet, one for the phone) as I was told to do.

I need help wiring the CAT5 up to the house. I'm testing the wires but I'm confused with the colors. I'm using the "newer standard" (I guess) wire with the following 8 colors:
WHITE, BROWN, WHITE, GREEN, WHITE, ORANGE, WHITE, BLUE

The box on the house has the traditional: GREEN, RED, YELLOW, BLACK

How do I connect my CAT5 cable (with 8 colored wires) to the house box (with 4 colored switches) ?

I'm doing this on the outside of my house first with a 5 foot cable to test it out before I run it throughout the whole house.

Thanks in advance

 

[Colt45]

it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: Colt45
it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

roger that.

 

[TJN23]

i'm obviously doing something wrong, I can't get a dialtone

I'll post somethin later if I get it to work, thanks

 

[Soybomb]

So your ultimate goal is to have one jack on the wall? Are you going to try and rig up some cable to plug in both the computer and phone?
The brown, white, green, orange, blue and whites cable is for the pc. The green/red/yellow/black is for phones and is not suitable for data. You can use the 4 pair cable for phone though, just use one pair (traditionally red and green positions are for the first line)

 

[TJN23]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
So your ultimate goal is to have one jack on the wall? Are you going to try and rig up some cable to plug in both the computer and phone?
The brown, white, green, orange, blue and whites cable is for the pc. The green/red/yellow/black is for phones and is not suitable for data. You can use the 4 pair cable for phone though, just use one pair (traditionally red and green positions are for the first line)

yes, my goal is to have one jack in the wall, one for a phone line (which can be used for my 56k now) and one for data (which essentially makes the house "DSL Ready")

I can get a dialtone using a plain old wall phone jack kit I got at radio shack.

my problem is that I have this particular device that has two jacks on a single piece. behind the jacks lie the "guts" and there are 8 wire connectors per jack. two rows of 8 = 16 in total. They are the green, brown, orange, blue. I can get it wired for data, but I cant seem to get a dialtone using this particular type of jack device

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Wiring my house, what to do???

get a professional?

nik

 

[TJN23]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Wiring my house, what to do???

get a professional?

nik

thats what ATOT is for

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: Colt45
it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

roger that.

What are you guys smoking!? the wires are wound a specific way inside the shielding. If you wire it wrong, electrical impules travelling down what are supposed to be specific wires may get too close to eachother inside the cable and electromagnetic fields get crossed. I used to make the cables and run my school's network. Trust me, eventually you're bound to get file corruption, computers missing off a network, and other anomalies. Just take the time to do it right and you won't regret it later.

nik

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: Colt45
it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

roger that.

What are you guys smoking!? the wires are wound a specific way inside the shielding. If you wire it wrong, electrical impules travelling down what are supposed to be specific wires may get too close to eachother inside the cable and electromagnetic fields get crossed. I used to make the cables and run my school's network. Trust me, eventually you're bound to get file corruption, computers missing off a network, and other anomalies. Just take the time to do it right and you won't regret it later.

nik

i was under the impression that he was using the whole 8 wires for the phone jack, and another slab of cat5 for ethernet.

if thats the case, its a non issue, telephone wire inst nomrally shielded, etc.

anyone else think this guy should just go buy 50ft of phone line for $2 ?

 

[TJN23]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I was under the impression that he was using the whole 8 wires for the phone jack, and another slab of cat5 for ethernet.

yes, I am, cant seem to figure out why it won't work

 

[tgillitzr]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: Colt45
it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

roger that.

What are you guys smoking!? the wires are wound a specific way inside the shielding. If you wire it wrong, electrical impules travelling down what are supposed to be specific wires may get too close to eachother inside the cable and electromagnetic fields get crossed. I used to make the cables and run my school's network. Trust me, eventually you're bound to get file corruption, computers missing off a network, and other anomalies. Just take the time to do it right and you won't regret it later.

nik

i was under the impression that he was using the whole 8 wires for the phone jack, and another slab of cat5 for ethernet.

if thats the case, its a non issue, telephone wire inst nomrally shielded, etc.

anyone else think this guy should just go buy 50ft of phone line for $2 ?

has nothing to do with sheilding. normal cat5 isn't sheilded either.

its called Twisted Pair for a reason. Pairs are twisted themselves, and then the pairs are twisted around the other pairs a certain number of times to limit interference.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tgillitzr

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Frosty3799

Originally posted by: Colt45
it doesnt matter, as long as its the same on each end.

roger that.

What are you guys smoking!? the wires are wound a specific way inside the shielding. If you wire it wrong, electrical impules travelling down what are supposed to be specific wires may get too close to eachother inside the cable and electromagnetic fields get crossed. I used to make the cables and run my school's network. Trust me, eventually you're bound to get file corruption, computers missing off a network, and other anomalies. Just take the time to do it right and you won't regret it later.

nik

i was under the impression that he was using the whole 8 wires for the phone jack, and another slab of cat5 for ethernet.

if thats the case, its a non issue, telephone wire inst nomrally shielded, etc.

anyone else think this guy should just go buy 50ft of phone line for $2 ?

has nothing to do with sheilding. normal cat5 isn't sheilded either.

its called Twisted Pair for a reason. Pairs are twisted themselves, and then the pairs are twisted around the other pairs a certain number of times to limit interference.

by "shielding" I meant the plastic/rubber cover over the wire grouping.

nik

 

[Tripleshot]

1st of all, you need to talk to someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. So far, in here, you haven't found anyone, correct?


If you use the cat5 cable from the outside telco box to an inside RJ11 connector plate that you need to press in the 4 pair cat 5, you will see that same plate can accept a telephone cable as it will a cat5 cable. It is notched to do so. There is a reason. Right where the phone company telco line would connect, say to your phone, will be where the White/blue blue/white pair would go. That White blue/blue /white pair is connected to the either red and green wires at the telco junction, or if that is not hot, then connect the white/ blue blue/white to the yellow and black connector. That is how the telco normally wires a house. red and green and a second phone line would be on yellow and black.

Are you still with me?


Good.

The cat5 cabling scheme that gets wired to a wall jack in your house,that you may want to use a cat5 cable in later, would be wired with a 568a or 568b wiring scheme. Either one will work fine. you can get the 568a or b scheme diagram on line. That will tell you how to wire a jack and also a cat5 cable. At the moment I do not have the link. You can do a google search for it though.


If you hook up your phone line the way I described and hear dial tone, then you have done 1/2 the connection. If you cannot break dial tone by depressing a dial pad key, then reverse your wiring. That should cure it. Then you willbe good to go.

PM me if you need any more I can help you with.

Here ya go

 

[Colt45]

plastic shielding doesnt stop interference.

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: Colt45
plastic shielding doesnt stop interference.

Its not shielding, its insulation, its called UTP for a reason guys Its not the insulation, its the design of the twists.

Seriously though tripleshot is right with the cat5 (I already said do red and green I think for the phone ).