wireless where typical wireless doesn't work

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Lifer
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I am working on a project for sending wireless in areas where wires are an issue or you can't use traditional wireless for one reason or another. It uses lasers. I know there are IR versions of things like this, but I like lasers ! I got the idea from thinking about wireless and how you can bounce rf signals to get to another point .


The device has a laser sender and receptor. They are about 3" square and 1.5" thick. Off of this comes a wire about the size of a telephone cord which connects to another smaller box containing all the electronics. The device is placed in a corner of the room near the ceiling, or wherever it is most unsightly above head height. The beam leaves the first device and can be bounced about 4-5 times before it loses coherence and can't be used. Might be more times with better quality mirrors, I'm working with a junk box budget. Distance is limited only by laser output power. To keep it safe for the eyes the limit right now is about 200ft. To get to other rooms it uses small mirrors about 1" square placed to bounce around corners or down hallways. Once it is all aligned it works really well.

Problems so far I am having are speed related, speeds are 1mbit due to hardware limitations. I did it just for fun to start with but am starting to look at it more seriously. Of course it wouldn't work for everyone in all situations depending on the layout of the living space. It does work great though for things like sending internet to another room around the corner or in the same room without wires. Or going out the back door to a garage .

Another possibility is using some of the optical fiber tech so multiple streams of data could be passed along the same pathways. So one mirror in a corner could be carrying 5 separate channels. The main thing I wanted to accomplish I already have , sending internet for audio streaming around a corner in an apartment without wires or wifi. I wanted to do it cheap, and by cheap I mean under $40.

If others have a use for something like this I would like to know, I'm thinking about making it a more , for sale, type item . Right now it is in prototype form and not really something someone without electronics skill could use. I'm looking for input , so suggestions welcome.
 

VirtualLarry

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Sounds cool!

Didn't they do something similar in the movie "Real Genius"? They bounced a laser around campus.
 

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Lifer
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Nice . Very similar to what I am doing except the cost :)
I should be able to get up to 8Mbit speeds soon with some parts I just ordered and still come in at about 50x cheaper than their cheapest model.
 

spidey07

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Take a look at the Canon CanoBeam point-to-point system. It uses laser to go many miles at Megabit to Gigagabit plus speeds.

It replaces a microwave relay.

http://www.canoncanobeam.com/

Yep, was just going to post the same thing. For fiber backhaul just use ethernet, much cheaper. No reason to get into optical switching/sonet/wdm for these speeds/capacity.

If you want to play around you can use the same path, just different wavelengths. The difficulty of course would be alignment and having a receiver for the division multiplexing.
 

mbahr

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This is VERY cool. I also like anything with lasers. I have used one such system at an installation in the past, but it was very slow and a long time ago.

If you can package this into a DIY set of directions... well... that would just be really fun for us hobbyist!
 

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Lifer
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This is VERY cool. I also like anything with lasers. I have used one such system at an installation in the past, but it was very slow and a long time ago.

If you can package this into a DIY set of directions... well... that would just be really fun for us hobbyist!


That is the idea. I plan to release it all when I get everything finalized. I want to keep the diy cost under $100 for a completed setup, possibly under $50 depending on what someone already has access to. Really the only thing that some people might not have access to that would increase cost a fair bit would be a programmer for the controller chips. Those cost about $60 but may be able to find some people willing to sell some programmed chips at cost + shipping.
The chips themselves are only about $5 unprogrammed.