Wireless network set-up NEED HELP !!!!

[saraara]

Hello there !

I am trying to set-up wireless network for 40 rooms property. This is like a hotel building where guests rent rooms weekly or monthly or some time daily. I like to have Internet access to all guests free. There are two floors, 20 rooms per side, 10 rooms per each floor. I have router placed in middle of the whole building on bottom floor. Now wireless signals are not that strong enough matter of facts half of the rooms do not get any signals at all.

All I like to have is:
1) Wireless repeaters or wireless signal extenders on both sodes.
2) I like to manage wireless security key to be changed on all gears at the sametime. I don't know if this is possible.

Technically I like to extend wireless signals using more access points, repeaters, or signal extenders or whatever it takes. At the same time I like to keep same wireless secutity key on all devices and also like to change wireless security key on all devices at a time if I need to. My plans are to change the wireless security key every week but same wireless key on all devices and I also want to change wireless security key on all devices simultaneously at the same time so I dont have to login to each device to set the same wireless security key one at a time.

What are my options and what are the gears I need to buy to accomplish my needs?

Sorry but wired network is not possible at all.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Eug]

I keep harping on this in other threads, but is powerline networking in that setup feasible? Depending upon your wiring that could substitute for a wired Ethernet backbone.

That seems like a half-assed approach to a commercial setup though. Can you not run Ethernet anywhere? Even two short runs could help things greatly.

 

[saraara]

I keep harping on this in other threads, but is powerline networking in that setup feasible? Depending upon your wiring that could substitute for a wired Ethernet backbone.

That seems like a half-assed approach to a commercial setup though. Can you not run Ethernet anywhere? Even two short runs could help things greatly.

Unfortunately I can not run ethernet wires due to the construction of the whole building.

 

[JackMDS]

Unfortunately I can not run ethernet wires due to the construction of the whole building.

The advice given by Eug is to use Powerline/Homeplug (Not Ethernet wiring).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...ng&Order=PRICE

 

[Eug]

I did suggest powerline, but I did ask if it might be possible to put in a couple of ethernet cables, and he answered that second part of the question.

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Anyways, if you do go with powerline to extend the wireless network (by using the powerline network as a backbone, and hanging wireless access points off that backbone), I would suggest the "200 Mbps" AV stuff, which is mentioned JackMDS's link.

Reviews seem to suggest the 200 Mbps stuff (which usually runs below 40 Mbps) is the most stable. There is 500 Mbps stuff out there but it doesn't seem to handle noisy lines as well, according to some reviews. Plus, there is no official 500 Mbps standard anyway. (The 600 Mbps AV2 standard isn't available yet.)

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Another option is to use HomePNA through your phone lines (or coaxial cable). It works pretty well actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePNA

 

[OlafSicky]

Unfortunately I can not run ethernet wires due to the construction of the whole building.

It is very difficult for me to believe that, unless you are not in north America and everything is solid concrete, in this case wireless would be impossible. I would run a wire in the attic and drop it down. Connect two AP on two sides of the building and you should be set.
If this is a hotel than provide internet in the lobby sitting lounge only, most older hotels I have been to are set up this way.
Look for vents or plumbing etc.

 

[RaiderJ]

Maybe take some DD-WRT compatible routers, like the Buffalo routers that have a stronger signal output, and bridge them all wirelessly. I have that between my living room media center and then another in the bedroom. You could move them around to try and find optimal spots for signal to reach all the rooms.

 

[Ksyder]

I can tell you that at the hotel I work at, we use power over Ethernet wireless access points throughout the hotel.

 

[Eug]

I can tell you that at the hotel I work at, we use power over Ethernet wireless access points throughout the hotel.

Well, he says he can't run Ethernet.

However, I've seen all-in-one powerline-networking+WiFi devices advertised so he could try that. However, I've never seen it in action. I just used regular powerline network adapters and attached WiFi access points to them.

http://reviews.cnet.com/bridges/netgear-powerline-av-200/4505-3304_7-34223940.html

 

[saraara]

Unfortunately homeplug or ethernet cable is impossible.
This is hotel like property but it's a residential complex.

If it was about ethenet cable or homeplug then I was done long ago.

Anyway here is what I am considering. Probably 4 sets to set them 1 on each side on each floor.

1. Use 4 wireless bridge to connect with main router and disable main routers SSID. Plug each wireless access point through small ethernet cable into each wireless bridge. This will make1 set.
2. Make 4 sets like this that can talk to main router.
3. Give each access point a different SSID.

However the question is will I be able to login to each access point remotely if that feature is supported by each access point? That way I can change wireless security key in each access point by sitting at my home.

Will there be any problem by setting up something like this?

Thanks for all answers so far.

 

[JackMDS]

You first have to install the main Wireless source and then use a laptop to survey the signal around the building.

This sort of the general way to go about something like this.

Start with One affordable Wireless Router that can do WDS (the reason to start with WDS capable Router is that in case you need to add more Wireless WDS hardware the original Router has to support it).

Using a Laptop loaded with Wirelessnetview, do a Wireless survey, http://majorgeeks.com/WirelessNetView_d6102.html

According to the signal strength reading, identify spots that have strong signal. and spot with weak, or No signal.

Evaluate how you can cover the space and start placing WDS units.

Additional Wireless Routers in WDS Mode (Wireless Network - Configuration Modes. ) has to be placed in spots were the signal is good about Half way to the dead spots.

How many WDS units are needed? It depends on your specific environment (that is a good the reason to buying WDS units one at the time, try it, and decide on the Next step).

If you use Routers flashed with DD-WRT this is the WDS page.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Linked_router_network