Wireless Network on Resnet

mzzmuaa

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I just bought a WRT54GS in an attempt to set up an access point for my Wii and DS while living in a college dorm. I'm sure it would be a breeze to set everything up if it wasn't for this resnet Cisco systems network.
1) If I connect the router normally, as in Internet->Router->PC, I lose the ability to connect to the internet, because I keep getting redirected to the Cisco login page.
2) If I change the setup to Internet->1st Network Card in PC->Router(via second network card), I can connect to the internet if I connect the ethernet cable from the PC to the 'internet' port on the WRT54GS, but lose the ability to use the router(it seems to only send packets to the router, but not retrieve any packets(according to control panel->network settings, etc)). If I connect the ethernet cable from the PC to a number output on the router, I lose the ability to connect to the internet, but gain the ability to communicate with the router.
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
 

mzzmuaa

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In case anyone cares(probably don't), I simply had to clone the mac address using the standard router->pc setup.
 

spidey07

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you reall need to clear this with your university to see if is allowed. you're circumventing their security big time.

Not only that, your radio will be located if they are using cisco gear. They might be able to narrow it down to the room it is located in.
 

nweaver

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Originally posted by: spidey07
you reall need to clear this with your university to see if is allowed. you're circumventing their security big time.

Not only that, your radio will be located if they are using cisco gear. They might be able to narrow it down to the room it is located in.

the CAN locate it to within about 10 feet, depending on how they have it set up.
 

mzzmuaa

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Any way to...uhh...hide it?
I know nothing about networking, so I've only set the mac filter to allow certain devices while not broadcasting SSID.
After using the wireless setup without a hitch since cloning the mac address, I encountered a problem in the form of being redirected to the resnet login page. I directly connected the computer to the wall jack afterwards, but still got redirected. I had to restart the computer and disconnect/reconnect the provided modem in order to get back on.
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: mzzmuaa
Any way to...uhh...hide it?
I know nothing about networking, so I've only set the mac filter to allow certain devices while not broadcasting SSID.
After using the wireless setup without a hitch since cloning the mac address, I encountered a problem in the form of being redirected to the resnet login page. I directly connected the computer to the wall jack afterwards, but still got redirected. I had to restart the computer and disconnect/reconnect the provided modem in order to get back on.

We won't help you. Many of us are admins or analysts and respect the work of fellow industry members.

Talk to your school's IT department.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: spidey07
you reall need to clear this with your university to see if is allowed. you're circumventing their security big time.

Not only that, your radio will be located if they are using cisco gear. They might be able to narrow it down to the room it is located in.

the CAN locate it to within about 10 feet, depending on how they have it set up.

heh, yeah. I've put up a ton of the Cisco solutions. The rogue AP detection works really well, especially in campus type environments where there are 10+ APs hearing the rogue.
 

mzzmuaa

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Ok that's fine
Another question...
How easy would it be for someone to screw up their hall's connection with a wireless router? I ask because wireless/wired routers were allowed last year, but the tech department banned them this year because they said someone's wireless crashed the hub or something like that. I've got my connection working fine now, I just want to be sure that I don't screw it up for anyone else by doing something stupid.
Thanks for the replies
 

seepy83

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When i was an undergrad, i spent some time as a student worker for the Network/Telecom Services department and helped them support resnet. Routers (wireless or wired) can be a huge problem, because the DHCP server on it can start handing out IP addresses to other students that live near you. When this happens, those users will surpass Network Admission Control devices (for instance, Cisco Clean Access Agent/Server) and can gain access to the network without verifying that they are running anti-virus software or other required software. Needless to say, users with Rouge Routers/DHCP servers were found pretty quickly, and they had their port shutdown.
 

spidey07

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It happens every year.

The wise-arse college kids get in the dorms and think they know everything. They then come up with haribrained means to circumvent securty......"wahoo!!!!, I really stuck it to the man!! They have no idea that I can get around "the system"!! W00T!"

it's funny really. Amusing would be a better word. They post on message boards about how to get around security systems used by all universities (the hot bed of bad activity) and think they are immune to things they don't understand. These students are so 'leet. It's mad, yo.

I personally find if a whole lotta fun to be the one responsible for writing the security policy for UNIs. The students think they are "so smart" that the uni can't detect them.