No they don't. It's hard to tell in the xcode picture because its so much smaller, but xcode has some pretty distinct elements that have been pretty blatantly been copied.
No they don't. It's hard to tell in the xcode picture because its so much smaller, but xcode has some pretty distinct elements that have been pretty blatantly been copied.
No they don't. It's hard to tell in the xcode picture because its so much smaller, but xcode has some pretty distinct elements that have been pretty blatantly been copied.
Yes they do. You could make Eclipse look very similar to that. Lots of IDE's look very alike. I know this because I work with compilers that work on embedded devices.
Fingolfin269
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It looks like the judge was referring specifically to the international versions of the SGS1/2.
no, you couldn't make eclipse look like that. Notice the "interface builder" work area, the buttons on the top right, the list of gui objects like "label" on the right side, the GUI element attribute area, and even the file tree is very similar. Their interface builder UI and general UI of their code environment is the same as xcode.
It is pretty obvious that they want it to be similar, because chances are that people developing iphone apps are the same ones that will be developing connected TV apps.
I am a former J2EE developer, worked with Eclipse, IntelliJ alot. I am currently an iPhone dev that works with xcode everyday for a digital media software company.
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Skurge
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As for boxes, the Samsung Omnia is packaged almost the same way as all current Galaxy phones. Earlier Sony Ericsson phones are also packaged the same way. Earlier HTC phones had boxes almost the same size as the phones and the phone being the 1st thing you see. Although the boxes opened the same way the older nokia phones do.
the international versions are the ones that most closely resemble the iPhone. Those are the ones with 3 buttons (2 soft + 1 hard home button). If the judge throws those out, I don't see what's the point. The ruling should've been on those, not some bastardized carrier messed up version.
Thus far I've been staying out of this thread in case I needed to moderate, but this quote from Judge Lucy Koh is too good not to mention it:
http://cdn.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4394020/Sparks-fly-as-Intel-shows-up-at-Apple-case
As background, the issue is that an expert witness for Samsung had reviewed Intel code but Samsung didn't notify Intel in a timely manner that their witness would be called so Intel objected to the witness testifying. But I thought the quote at the end was amusing.
It's worth mentioning that I work for Intel - which is how I heard about this - and that I'm not a spokesperson for Intel and I'm not commenting in any way about the trial.
http://cdn.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4394020/Sparks-fly-as-Intel-shows-up-at-Apple-case
As background, the issue is that an expert witness for Samsung had reviewed Intel code but Samsung didn't notify Intel in a timely manner that their witness would be called so Intel objected to the witness testifying. But I thought the quote at the end was amusing.
It's worth mentioning that I work for Intel - which is how I heard about this - and that I'm not a spokesperson for Intel and I'm not commenting in any way about the trial.
Reminds me of a part of Bill Cosby's standup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ysFvUizRj8
The exchange does kind of strike me as funny in a silly manner. That said, I doubt that anything will come out of it. Sometimes things just get put off or forgotten about.
Axon
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That's a lawyer screw up, not shady business. I've made that mistake at trial. You don't sleep, you barely eat. It it's Samsung's expert, I'm not even certain if intel needs to be told if it was in his rule 26 report. If it's new and confidential, and there's a deal in place, then yes.
Koh is right not to trust anyone though.
Apple stole the idea for tablets from Roger Fidler. http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Samsung-Witness-Says-Apple-Knew-of-His-3788779.php
the concept of a tablet has been around forever. we've been talking about a possible iPad since the release of an iPhone, and the public's been waiting.
Apple was the first one who executed successfully. Remember when it first came out? We all just thought giant iPod. Well there you have it. It's more of an iPod than a copy of anything....
Apple was the first one who executed successfully. Remember when it first came out? We all just thought giant iPod. Well there you have it. It's more of an iPod than a copy of anything....
halik
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No they don't. It's hard to tell in the xcode picture because its so much smaller, but xcode has some pretty distinct elements that have been pretty blatantly been copied.
You've clearly never done of sort of work.
JFrameBuilder
C#
etc etc
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I think Apple has on retainer ALL the best lawyers so that Samsung is left with the ones who couldn't make it as public defenders. It is also likely that Apple has kept Samsung's lawyers VERY busy with motions and briefs and other things to take up there time. Flood them with paper and wait till they miss something because they're tired and over worked.
It is sad to say but the legal world is governed by money and those that have the most usually win. Our political process is a lot like this...
Brian
Samsung is in the top 10 biggest companies in the world by revenue, beating Apple. If they're losing in court, it's not because they don't have the money to hire better lawyers. Apple has just been able to get some highly damning documents (e.g. internal memo re: Touchwiz, internal e-mails, e-mails from Google telling them not to copy Apple) into evidence, and Samsung just has the weaker case. At this point, their PR is in damage mitigation mode, relying on a tired 'fighting over rectangles' argument, but anyone who's studied trade dress knows it's about much more than that.
Exactly. I'd expect any fortune 500 company to be able to hire competent lawyers.
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