WinXp continuously restarts

[thuffner3]

At this point WinXp has attempted to start 30 times. I receive a very brief error message indicating that a hardware problems has caused this, and to remove the hardware or software. I would certainly do this if I could log on in safe mode but I can't. I attempted start from a CD-rom and go to the recovery console, but that option seems to be out as well. The system wont let me select "Last good configuration"

Any help

TIA
Neil

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
At this point WinXp has attempted to start 30 times. I receive a very brief error message indicating that a hardware problems has caused this, and to remove the hardware or software. I would certainly do this if I could log on in safe mode but I can't. I attempted start from a CD-rom and go to the recovery console, but that option seems to be out as well. The system wont let me select "Last good configuration"

Was this during a new install, service pack upgrade, or just out of the blue on an established system? Can you get any more of the data from the blue screen that comes up?

Bill

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
At this point WinXp has attempted to start 30 times. I receive a very brief error message indicating that a hardware problems has caused this, and to remove the hardware or software. I would certainly do this if I could log on in safe mode but I can't. I attempted start from a CD-rom and go to the recovery console, but that option seems to be out as well. The system wont let me select "Last good configuration"

Any help

TIA
Neil

>>I attempted start from a CD-rom and go to the recovery console, but that option seems to be out as well.

Why?

>>The system wont let me select "Last good configuration"

Why not? What happens when you try?

We need a LOT more information here, please.

 

[thuffner3]

I had installed an older Pen tablet driver that had previously worked. Windows had to restart, which it did just find. The pen tablet did not function so at that point I attempted to install an older driver. The pen tablet still did not function. SO I shut down and disconnected it. That being done, Windows will not start up.
I get a blue screen indicating that there is a "registry_error" when I try to run XP from a CD-rom, thinking I can just run setup. But I can't even do that.

Help
TIA
Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
I had installed an older Pen tablet driver that had previously worked. Windows had to restart, which it did just find. The pen tablet did not function so at that point I attempted to install an older driver. The pen tablet still did not function. SO I shut down and disconnected it. That being done, Windows will not start up.
I get a blue screen indicating that there is a "registry_error" when I try to run XP from a CD-rom, thinking I can just run setup. But I can't even do that.

Help
TIA
Neil

Can you answer my two questions?

 

[thuffner3]

Working through from the startup to blue screen.
Go into system Bios, select boot from CD-rom.
Insert XP cd.
Booting from CD.

Selection screen

Enter for set-up

r for recovery console

esc for cancel

I select Enter for setup.
XP goes through the driver and configuration proceedure.
Then terminates at the blue scree.

Exact wording of blue screen

"A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

REGISTRY_ERROR

If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps.

Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you might need.

If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching, or shadowing.
If you need to use safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advance Startup options, and then select Safe Mode.

Technical information:

***STOP: 0x00000051 (0x00000004,0x00000001,0xE10385A8,0x00077998)


From COLD BOOT

hit F8 for startup options.

Startup options screen appears. Any and all selections will initialize drivers etc, when complete.
reverts right back to a restart.


Hope this helps.

Thank you for being here.

Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Working through from the startup to blue screen.
Go into system Bios, select boot from CD-rom.
Insert XP cd.
Booting from CD.

Selection screen

Enter for set-up

r for recovery console

esc for cancel

I select Enter for setup.
XP goes through the driver and configuration proceedure.
Then terminates at the blue scree.

Exact wording of blue screen

"A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

REGISTRY_ERROR

If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps.

Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you might need.

If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching, or shadowing.
If you need to use safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advance Startup options, and then select Safe Mode.

Technical information:

***STOP: 0x00000051 (0x00000004,0x00000001,0xE10385A8,0x00077998)


From COLD BOOT

hit F8 for startup options.

Startup options screen appears. Any and all selections will initialize drivers etc, when complete.
reverts right back to a restart.


Hope this helps.

Thank you for being here.

Neil

Boot from the XP CD.
Let it boot for 5 minutes.
Hit F10 at the VERY first screen (the blue screen, white lettering, press enter to continue bit...ignore all that, hit F10 instead)

Now what happens?

And please explain what happens when you hit F8 at bootup - I don't have any idea what you're trying to say. You should get a last known good choice - what happens when you select that? Do you mean any options (safe mode, LKG, etc.) will attempt to boot the box and then give you that STOP 51 error?

 

[thuffner3]

Absolutely nothing will get me any further than the Stop screen. I've not tried hitting F10.
But F8 will give me the Advanced start up option screen.
Hitting any selection simply
allows WinXp to initialize it's driver base.
The screen scrolls through these. Then goes black.
and Restarts.
The Blue Stop screen can only be brought up from a CD-rom boot up (COLD).

I can see it for a milisecond as WinXP reverts to restarting. from and F8 screen.
I get this no matter what option I pick.

Fortunatley, at this point I was able (after disconnecting my primary HD) able to Install WinXp
on a secondary HD. This is not what I want. I do have access to my files, so the HD is not dead.

Considering that the Blue Stop screen indicates a "REGISTRY_ERROR" <----- exactly as it appears,
If nothing else. Is there a chance of retreiving and importing Registry info from the bad OS. (last resort)
Or even making a dertimination of what ERROR i have and deleting the bad entries?
WinXP pro is new to me and working through it. I've not had a chance to back it up.


Thanks
Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Absolutely nothing will get me any further than the Stop screen. I've not tried hitting F10.
But F8 will give me the Advanced start up option screen.
Hitting any selection simply
allows WinXp to initialize it's driver base.
The screen scrolls through these. Then goes black.
and Restarts.
The Blue Stop screen can only be brought up from a CD-rom boot up (COLD).

I can see it for a milisecond as WinXP reverts to restarting. from and F8 screen.
I get this no matter what option I pick.

Fortunatley, at this point I was able (after disconnecting my primary HD) able to Install WinXp
on a secondary HD. This is not what I want. I do have access to my files, so the HD is not dead.

Considering that the Blue Stop screen indicates a "REGISTRY_ERROR" <----- exactly as it appears,
If nothing else. Is there a chance of retreiving and importing Registry info from the bad OS. (last resort)
Or even making a dertimination of what ERROR i have and deleting the bad entries?
WinXP pro is new to me and working through it. I've not had a chance to back it up.


Thanks
Neil

Hit F10 when booting from CD, as I discussed, and let us know what happens.

See my .sig for something you can do while in that recovery console to get your original registry in place. You'll copy the sam/software/system/security files from one place to another, and then try that. But I'd suggest just booting to recovery console and disabling any drivers set to boot or system that look like they'd have anything to do with the pen system.

 

[thuffner3]

F10 is not doing a thing, Should I be holding like F8? I've tried hit F10 at every opportunity and I get nothing but the Stop blue screen with message as above.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
F10 is not doing a thing, Should I be holding like F8? I've tried hit F10 at every opportunity and I get nothing but the Stop blue screen with message as above.

OK, so you boot from CD, you get to a screen where normally you'd press ENTER, instead you press F10, and the machine immediately goes into a STOP 51. Is that correct?

 

[thuffner3]

Pressing F10 doesabsolutely nothing. F8 from a cold boot will give me the advance startup options.
But again it will still cycle through the needed drivers then (millisecond display of blue screen) restart.

Cold boot from CD will get me to the blue screen. at this point I have to manually restart.

I even so much as tried pushing F10 continuously during CD-rom startup. Nothing.

 

[thuffner3]

When I do use the CD-rom bootup option, I get message asking which windows do I want to use.
Press enter to cancel
or a numeric listing of windows directories.
Naturally I press F10. nothing happens. So I press #1 for my primary windows directory.
Then it halts for a minute, and wham, theres the blue stop screen.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Pressing F10 doesabsolutely nothing. F8 from a cold boot will give me the advance startup options.
But again it will still cycle through the needed drivers then (millisecond display of blue screen) restart.

Cold boot from CD will get me to the blue screen. at this point I have to manually restart.

I even so much as tried pushing F10 continuously during CD-rom startup. Nothing.

Please don't press F10 until you get to the very first blue screen with white lettering. Normally that's where you'd press enter and allow setup to proceed, but instead you need to press F10 to go immediately to the recovery console.

I understand cold booting from the CD will get you to the blue screen (STOP 51) and then you must restart. This happens with no interaction on your part? You don't press any keys at all, yet you still get the bluescreen?

You will only need to hit F10 once - when prompted to press enter, which happens after all drivers are fully loaded from the CDROM - which happens 3-5 minutes after the boot process from CD starts.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
When I do use the CD-rom bootup option, I get message asking which windows do I want to use.
Press enter to cancel
or a numeric listing of windows directories.
Naturally I press F10. nothing happens. So I press #1 for my primary windows directory.
Then it halts for a minute, and wham, theres the blue stop screen.

Pop the HDD out of that machine, put it in another machine, boot that machine's XP installation, and then on this hard drive (which you're not booting from) you'll run chkdsk on it (rightclick on the disk, properties / disk tools) and choose to fix all errors. Once you get to that point, I'd load the registry files(make sure it's an XP SP1 or SP2 machine) from regedit (I can detail that if you like) and it may fix things up a little bit. (Loading the registry with an xpsp1 or newer machine's regedt32/regedit fixes minor registry corruption.)

And then try to boot again and see what happens.

Chances are, though, that your registry is hosed. You can swap the registry (see my .sig's URL) if you like and see what that gets you...

 

[thuffner3]

Doing exactly as you said,
I get to a screen
MicroSoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console.

The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality.

Type EXIT to quit the recovery Console and restart the computer.

1: C:\WINDOWS <------ This is the one I need.

2: D:\WINDOWS <------- This one I installed a little while ago to see if I could actually get anywhere.

Which windows installation would you like to log onto?
(To cancel,press Enter)? _


At this point I press #1 can't do mush else. I tried F10 at this point as well.

the system hangs for a minute, then The Blue Stop screen.

Same Tech Info as indicate previously

Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Doing exactly as you said,
I get to a screen
MicroSoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console.

The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality.

Type EXIT to quit the recovery Console and restart the computer.

1: C:\WINDOWS <------ This is the one I need.

2: D:\WINDOWS <------- This one I installed a little while ago to see if I could actually get anywhere.

Which windows installation would you like to log onto?
(To cancel,press Enter)? _


At this point I press #1 can't do mush else. I tried F10 at this point as well.

the system hangs for a minute, then The Blue Stop screen.

Same Tech Info as indicate previously

Neil

And when you press 2, it also gives you a STOP 51?

 

[thuffner3]

Pressing #2 will get me to the 2nd instal of WinXP I did a little while ago. with GUI similar to the old DOS.
Can I use the command list on the first drive?
Or do these command only pertain to the Windows directory I selected at the Recovery Console?

Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Pressing #2 will get me to the 2nd instal of WinXP I did a little while ago. with GUI similar to the old DOS.
Can I use the command list on the first drive?
Or do these command only pertain to the Windows directory I selected at the Recovery Console?

Neil

You can type help for a list of commands.

I suggest booting from the 2nd install you did, and then loading the registry hive of the original install from within RegEdit to see if you can fix the registry corruption. You'd load all four hives.

 

[thuffner3]

Will loading these registry hive under Regedit "append" my newly created registry?

 

[thuffner3]

Darn it's almost 1:00am here, I'll fiddle with it in the morning. Thank you so much for your help.
I'll be back with more info.

Thanks man
Neil

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: thuffner3
Will loading these registry hive under Regedit "append" my newly created registry?

No. See my .sig's URL for more info.

 

[cy7878]

tried to change the IDE cable? if the cable is bad it can cause symptom you described. Why not try a new cable?? it can't hurt.

 

[thuffner3]

Good morning all,


Just checking in to see where we stand. I havebbbb't done a thing but turn the unit on.

Neil

 

[thuffner3]

Well I can get into the system registry on the new installation of XP, Although there is not much I can do as far aas updating infomation, files, etc.
I can import registry files.
I can load hives.

But what should be the files or hives I load/import?

I'm sure I can delete the entries that would pertain to the device driver I installed that initially caused this whole mess.

Thanks
Neil