Windows XP SP2 Screws up some games...

[warcrow]

Teh Bootay!

I'm glad I didnt install it

 

[erikistired]

turn off the firewall and all your problems go away.

 

[erikistired]

yay the forums rock tonight!

 

[Scouzer]

funny how a lot of them are microsoft games too. lol

 

[Rottie]

I read something might be interest for you to read about SP2 patch.

SP2 problems

 

[kingshoc]

I had a problem with Halo

 

[ivan2]

gunbound reboots as soon as it starts...

 

[MTDEW]

WOW!, thats a BIG list!
Thanks for the heads up.

Good thing i decided to "test run" SP2 on my backup pc for awhile instead of my main gaming rig.

 

[Bar81]

Good thing I use Win 2k SP4

 

[buckmasterson]

I like the opening comment on Microsoft's site..."Programs that may behave differently in Windows XP Service Pack 2". I'd bet there is at least one of these programs on 90% of the PC's in the world.

Star Trek StarFleet Command III v1.0 Activision
Medieval Total War 1 Activision
PageMaker 7 Adobe
PageMaker (German) 6.5 Adobe
Photoshop Elements 2 Adobe
AdShield 3 AdShield
ERDisk for AD 6.7.128.0 Aelita
Nero 6 Ultra 6 Ahead
Nero Burning ROM 5.5.6 Ahead
Al Mawrad (Arabic) 2003 Al Ariss
PhotoClick --- Al Maalin
AOL 9 AOL
AOL Toolkit 1.13.2 AOL
Uno 1 Aris Buenaventura
Dead Man's Hand 1 Atari
MotoRacer 3 Atari
Scrabble v3.0 Atari
Unreal II 1 Atari
Unreal Tournament 2003 1 Atari
Unreal Tournament Game of the Year Edition 1 Atari
Extra Enterprise 2000 --- Attachmate
Extra Personal Client 6.5 --- Attachmate
Extra! Bundle for TCP/IP 6.6 --- Attachmate
KEA! 340 v5.1 --- Attachmate
Command Antivirus 4.9 Authentium
AutoCAD 2004 --- Autodesk
bv-Admin Mobile 7 --- Bind View
BitDefender 7.2 SOFTWIN SRL
StarCraft 1.05 Blizzard
Starcraft v1.11 Blizzard
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos Collector's Edition v 1.0 Blizzard
Patrol for Windows 2000 3.4.0.11 --- BMC
Word Perfect Family Pack 5 - Encyclopedia Britannica Ready Reference 2003 Britannica
WISO Sparbuch 2004 Buhl
InoculateIT --- CA
MpegCraft DVD x Caropus
Citrix ICA client 7.1 Citrix
FileMaker Pro (German) 5 FileMaker, Inc.
ArcServe 6.61 Computer Associates
ArcServe 7.0 --- Computer Associates
BrightStor ArcServe Backup 9.0 --- Computer Associates
eTrust 7 Computer Associates
eTrust 6.0.100 --- Computer Associates
Etrust EZArmor AE Test Computer Associates
Corel Draw 9 - PhotoPaint (German) 9 Corel
WordPerfect Office 11 Corel
1st and 2nd Grade Excelerator Curious George Studio 1 --- Countertop Software
Serious Sam: The Second Encounter 1 Croteam
Retrospect Client x Dantz
Dave's Quick Search Toolbar 3.16 Dave Bau http://notesbydave.com/toolbar/doc.htm
Diet KaZaa 2.52 Diet KaZaa
The Lion King Animated Storybook 1 Disney
DivXPlayer 2.5.3 DivX
Command & Conquer Generals --- EA Games
Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour --- EA Games
Earth & Beyond v.1 EA Games
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 1 EA Games
SimCity 4 v1.0 EA Games
Freedom Force 1 Electronic Arts
NBA Live 2000 1 Electronic Arts
CheckSoft Home and Business 2004 Eliibrium
EDM File System Agent 3.1 --- EMC
Chess Advantage III: Lego Chess --- Encore
High School Advantage 2003 --- Encore Software
Encyclopedia Britannica 2000 Deluxe 1 Encyclopedia Britannica
Smarterm Office 10 --- Esker.com
Smarterm Office 11 --- Esker.com
Diskeeper 8 Executive Software
Der Brockhaus Multimedia (German) 2004 F.A. Brockhaus
JAWS 5.0 5 Freedom Scientific
F-Secure 5.52 F-Secure
Drivers & Utilities CD --- Fujitsu-Siemmens
Cute FTP 5.0 --- GlobalScape
Conflict: Desert Storm --- Gothamgames
Window-Eyes Professional 4.2 GW Micro
HP Quick Launch Buttons --- HP
HP SJ 6350 --- HP
Exceed 8 --- Hummingbird
Host Explorer 8 --- Hummingbird
Rational's Clearcase 2003 IBM
ViaVoice for Windows Personal Edition 10 10 IBM
SmartSuite Millennium Edition ScreenCam (German) 9.5 IBM Lotus
ICQ Pro 3916 ICQ
iMesh 3.1 iMesh
TurboCAD Professional 9 IMSI
InstallShield 8 InstallShield
Quicken 2003 Premier Home and Business 2003 Intuit
Quicken Deluxe 2001 2001 Intuit
Kazaa 2.52 Kazaa
Kerio Personal Firewall 4 Kerio
WinRoute 4.25 Kerio
Playzone Preschool - Kindergarten - Jump Start Spelling 1 Knowledge Adventure
Live Journal Semagic 1.3.9.6 Live Journal
SmartSuite Millennium Edition - Fast Site --- Lotus
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic --- Lucas Arts
Merriam Webster's Reference Library 2003 - Journey to the Planets 2003 M-2K
ColdFusion MX for J2EE 6 --- Macromedia
Freehand 8 (German) 8 Macromedia
MapSend Direct Route --- Magellan
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2004 6 McAfee
McAfee Parental Controls 1 McAfee
McAfee VirusScan 4.51 McAfee
Netshield 4.5 --- McAfee
VirusScan 7 McAfee
Encarta Enzyklopädie 2002 Microsoft
Age of Empires II: Age of Kings --- Microsoft
Application Center 2000 SP2 --- Microsoft
BizTalk 2004 --- Microsoft
CMS 2001 Microsoft
Combat Flight Simulator 3 1 Microsoft
Excel 2003 Microsoft
Halo Combat Evolved (Arabic and Hebrew) Trial Microsoft
MapPoint Europe 2004 Microsoft
Microsoft Operations Manager 2000 SP1 Microsoft
MS License 3.7 Microsoft
MSBN --- Microsoft
MSN 7.02 Microsoft
MSN 9 QFE1 and 9.1 beta 9 Microsoft
Office 11 Microsoft
Office - Power Point 2002 (German) 2002 Microsoft
Office Access 2002 2002 Microsoft
Office System - Power Point 2003 Microsoft
Office XP Access 10 Microsoft
Office XP Professional Excel 10.0 SP2 --- Microsoft
Office XP SP2 - PowerPoint 11 Microsoft
Office XP Standard 10 Microsoft
Outlook 2000 9 Microsoft
Outlook 2002 10 Microsoft
Outlook 2003 11 Microsoft
Outlook Web Access x Microsoft
Revenge of Arcade v1.0 Microsoft
Server Administrator Tools --- Microsoft
SMS 2.0 SP5 Microsoft
SMS 2.0 SP5 Microsoft
SMS 2003 RC2 Microsoft
SMS 2003 RTM Microsoft
SMS --- Microsoft
SNA Server 4.0 SP4 --- Microsoft
SQL --- Microsoft
SQL 7 Microsoft
SQL 2000a SP3 Microsoft
TaxSaver 1999 Microsoft
Virtual PC 2004 Microsoft
Visual Basic 6 Microsoft
Visual C++ (16-bit) 2 Microsoft
Visual Studio 7 Microsoft
Visual Studio 97 Microsoft
Visual Studio .NET Enterprise 2003 --- Microsoft
Visual Studio 98 6 Microsoft
Windows Sharepoint Services 2 Microsoft
Windows Sharepoint Services --- Microsoft
Word XP Microsoft
Works Suite 2004 2004 Microsoft
WSS 2 Microsoft
Musicmatch Jukebox 8.20.0107 Musicmatch
StyleSelector x NEC
Veritas --- NEC
AppManager 5.01 NetIQ
End2End 4.1 --- NetIQ
File and Storage Administrator 2.1 (191067) --- NetIQ
ViewNow 1.05 1.05 NetManage.com
ViewNow 1.0 1 NetManage.com
McAfee Remote Desktop 32 --- Network Associates
ESET NOD32 for windows --- Nod32
Norman Personal Firewall 1.40 AETEST Norman
Norman Personal Firewall 4 Norman
Becky 12.09.01
KaZaa Media Desktop 2.6.3
PhotoImpact 7 (Traditional Chinese) 7
Super Collapse (Demo Only) 2
UX Theme MultiPatcher 1.5.1
PhotoExplosion Deluxe 1 Nova Development
NovaNet Web 3.6 NovaStor
Pinnacle Studio 9 Pinnacle Systems
Instant CD/DVD 7 Pinnacle Systems
Real Player (free version) 10 Real Networks
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 1 Red Storm
Action Request System x Remedy
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 1 RockStar Games
NASCAR Racing 2003 Season v2003 --- Sierra
Tribes 2 1 Sierra
Harvard Graphics 3 Software Publishing Corp
SonicWALL Virus Scan --- SonicWall
Sony: PCV-V200G: --- Sony
VirusSecurity 2004 2004 Sourcenext
BootSkin x Stardock
Ghost Corporate Edition 7.5 --- Symantec
Norton Antivirus 2003 2003 Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2003 - GoBack Personal Edition Other MS Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2003 Professional Edition 2003 Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2004 - GoBack32 Beta Symantec
PCAnywhere 11 --- Symantec
Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition 8 Symantec
Talkworks Pro x Symantec
Winfax Pro 10 Symantec
Roboword Pro (JAPANESE) 6 Technocraft
Style XP 2 TGT soft
Eclipse 3 Unknown
Midnight Outlaw: Illegal Street Drag 1 Valuesoft
Roller Coaster Factory v3.0 Valuesoft
Elite Forces Vietnam: Special Assignment 2 ver 1 ver 1 Valusoft
Backup Exec 9 Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1.4691 Veritas
Backup Exec 8.6.1 Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1 Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1 Veritas
Backup Exec 8.6.1 Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1 Veritas
Volume Manager 3.1 3.1 Veritas
Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 v1.0 Westwood
Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 1 Westwood
WinGate 5.2.3 WinGate
Reflection 9 WRQ
Reflection 9.03 WRQ
Reflection 10 WRQ
Reflection X 10 WRQ
Reflection X 11 WRQ
Reflection X 10 --- WRQ
Xoreax Incredibuild --- Xoreax
Yahoo Messenger 6.0.0.167 Yahoo
PC Magazine Business Winstone Benchmark 2004 Ziff Davis
ZoneAlarm 5.0.590 ZoneLabs

 

[MrChad]

"May behave differently" != "screws up"

I have a number of the programs on that list and they work fine after installing SP2. As fisher mentioned, most issues can be resolved with some simple firewall tweaks. Worst case scenario, you have to uninstall SP2, which many people on this forum have said is easy to to.

It's absolutely foolish to be running a home computer with XP connected to the internet and NOT install SP2.

 

[Mem]

Microsoft stated that most of the problems are associated with the new built-in Windows firewall, where users must approve programs that attempt to make Internet connections. However, some programs use data pages that the firewall automatically blocks, as they are common attack routes for hackers. A work-around is built into the firewall software, as well as the ability for advanced users to simply turn it off.

The simple answer for most people is to use a third party firewall and just disable the XP one,I prefer to use my Kerio personal firewall rather then the XP one,as we all know there`re lots of better free firewalls out there.

I know one thing,UT,UT2003 and all my other games work great with SP2 and my Kerio personal firewall .

 

[Cheetah8799]

"May behave differently" != "screws up"

If they don't give any specifics on what is different, then to me it might as well be busted.

It's absolutely foolish to be running a home computer with XP connected to the internet and NOT install SP2.

Why foolish? I have no urge to install SP2. I don't worry about viruses and hackers right now because I have my own dedicated Smoothwall firewall running. Now as for some of my relatives and such, well, yes, they would be foolish to not install it...

If I do get around to installing SP2, the first thing I'll be doing is turning OFF that stupid Microsoft firewall...

 

[Smilin]

What a bunch of FUD. The bash sp2 bandwagon is coming to town, everyone jump on!!! Weeeeee!!!!


Of course it's going to affect things. You're installing a firewall. Unless you are some sort of retard you'll open the proper ports and be on your merry way. I'm running sp2 and having no problems with anything that I own that's on that list.

 

[buckmasterson]

Right, I have no reason to complain, afterall I only spent $149.00 x 3 for it... The real victim here is Microsoft. They didn't mean to make billions off people like me...:roll:

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: buckmasterson
Right, I have no reason to complain, afterall I only spent $149.00 x 3 for it... The real victim here is Microsoft. They didn't mean to make billions off people like me...:roll:

How is Microsoft the bad guy in this situation? They invested millions of dollars to write and test SP2 before releasing it for free to Windows users. Service Pack 2 makes significant gains in protecting users from viruses, spyware and malware. Not only that, they are being proactive by warning users of any program that may have the SLIGHTEST issue interacting with SP2's new firewall and networking code.

Your post states that "at least one of these programs on 90% of the PC's in the world." Have you even tried installing SP2? Like I said, I have had no trouble at all with the service pack, and I have more than a few of those programs listed installed on my PC.

You have every right to complain if you install SP2, it breaks one or more of your programs, and you are unable to properly reconfigure your system to get it working. But let's not start spreading rumors and misinformation in an effort to scare people away from installing this update.

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: buckmasterson
Right, I have no reason to complain, afterall I only spent $149.00 x 3 for it... The real victim here is Microsoft. They didn't mean to make billions off people like me...:roll:

How is Microsoft the bad guy in this situation? They invested millions of dollars to write and test SP2 before releasing it for free to Windows users. Service Pack 2 makes significant gains in protecting users from viruses, spyware and malware. Not only that, they are being proactive by warning users of any program that may have the SLIGHTEST issue interacting with SP2's new firewall and networking code.

Your post states that "at least one of these programs on 90% of the PC's in the world." Have you even tried installing SP2? Like I said, I have had no trouble at all with the service pack, and I have more than a few of those programs listed installed on my PC.

You have every right to complain if you install SP2, it breaks one or more of your programs, and you are unable to properly reconfigure your system to get it working. But let's not start spreading rumors and misinformation in an effort to scare people away from installing this update.

:beer: :thumbsup:

 

[madthumbs]

MrChad,

You beet me to it! :beer: :thumbsup:

-The people who hated the movie Farenheight 911 never even saw it. Most people who hate SP2 never even tried it.

Btw, isn't it easily uninstallable?

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: madthumbs
MrChad,

You beet me to it! :beer: :thumbsup:

-The people who hated the movie Farenheight 911 never even saw it. Most people who hate SP2 never even tried it.

Btw, isn't it easily uninstallable?

Yes, it can be uninstalled quite easily. It also gets free support from Microsoft. People act like if it breaks something that Microsoft is going to give you a big Nelson HA-HA and leave you out in the cold. They won't. They'll stand by the service pack and give you support if it breaks something. You are a paying customer after all right? I think some people have gotten used to the support (or lack thereof) that they get with a free linux distro.

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

Ideally if you are worried about SP2 just Ghost your entire drive to a blank hard drive. Then install SP2 and try all of your programs. If something is messed up and you can't fix it, just Ghost back over from the backup.

I got XP Pro free from my school, and a bunch of other MS software through some MSDNAA thing, so I'll probably be upgrading from 2000 Pro Sp4 to XP soon. Just wish I had another hard drive in my dorm to backup to =(

 

[CorporationX]

as long as it doesnt mess with CS, i'm cool

 

[Lyfer]

Fvck, starcraft is on that list.

 

[Qanadhar]

Originally posted by: fisher
turn off the firewall and all your problems go away.

Well, actually, no, they don't. I'm not sure what is going on, but when I installed SP2, the patcher for EverQuest and the Launchpad for Star Wars Galaxies both were unable to establish a connection. I turned off all firewalls and was still not able to make a connection. I *was* able to play EverQuest if I bypassed the patcher, which I thought was extremely odd. I uninstalled SP2, but I want it and would rather learn what to do to allow these games to work rather than not use it. Please email me if you think you have any useful suggestions.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Good thing I use Win 2k SP4

 

[John P]

Service Pack 2 makes significant gains in protecting users from viruses, spyware and malware.

Yes, especially if you have a wireless network. My neigbor installed SP2 on his machine and it totally fubared his wireless connection. It's hard to get viruses if you can't connect to the internet. After we uninstalled the Netgear wireless utility and disabled the firewall it worked but only sporadically.

We finally did a system restore back to before he installed SP2 and everything works wonderfully again.