Windows XP Reinstall Headache

darkewaffle

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I have a desktop PC. It was giving me some real annoyances which I didn't seem able to find any help for, and it'd been two years since Windows was first installed on it, so I figured now as as good a time as any to do a bit of serious cleanup. First I backed up everything I would want from my main hard drive on one of my storage drives, and then I went to work.

First I formatted the hard drive with a boot CD utility I have, and that went fine. Then I began the process of installing windows; creating a new partition and then the actual installation. The first time through, things actually went ok, until I actually got into Windows itself. (Note: This first time I attempted using a burnt ISO I had tooled with using NLite because I thought it would be cool to do and worth a shot.) Windows was not functioning very well; I tried to install some Drivers and such, but ended up getting some errors and then when I restarted I was faced with a "DISK BOOT FAILURE" or some such message; I attributed these problems to me fooling around with the ISO with NLite and decided I was probably better off just using a full install and living with those annoying processes.

So I format the drive again (that DISK BOOT error seems to prevent a lot of other things from functioning), then using an unmodified install CD I proceed to try to install Windows once more. It seemed ok for the most part, but then when I went to install drivers for my motherboard (DFI NF3 Lanparty UT) I was faced with some sort of pseudo-BSOD regarding some sort of .sys (I think) file which I google to find out is some sort of error ocurring on NF3 chipsets regarding some sort of Ethernet Firewall, or something else. I also fail to find any real solution to this, so I figure I'll start over again. Not like I made much progress anyway.

So I have to format yet again, as the .sys error seems to interrupt the windows install, and I go for it once more. This time the installation goes through ok, and I leave the drivers alone initially to see if other things are working. I restart and am given the "DISK BOOT" error again, which prevents me from actually entering windows again short of placing the system disk in the optical drive every time I hope to restart, which I'm not going to put up with.

From there I attempt to install windows a few more times, I try different install discs I create from my laptop, yet every time the "BOOT DISK" error is present. The precise error I see is this:

Verifying DMI Pool Data ..............
Boot from CD :
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER

Which appears shortly after I see my DFI Mobo's splash screen, and I might mention I do have access to CMOS and whatnot. I've tried re-ordering boot priority, but it appears to have no effect really.

Currently my CMOS settings are set to slightly modified "Fail Safe Defaults," and I was able to update my BIOS via the WinFlasher utility from DFI's site using one of my slightly broken windows installs, but after that I was permanently stuck in "DISK BOOT FAILURE" screen, and had to enter CMOS and tool around a little bit to get it to read disks 'properly.' So, as of right now, I'm currently formatting the drive yet again and hoping for some different results now that the BIOS of the mobo has been updated. (I reasoned that since it probably wasn't a problem with every windows disk I try, and there's not much else there currently which could actually cause an issue, this is one thing that may have some effect.)


I guess I'm not even sure that I have any questions yet, seeing as this post is still quite the work in progress. But if anyone has any advice if I'm doing anything wrong or anything else to try, I'd welcome it. Plus it feels good just to write it out :)
 

mechBgon

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Ok, try NOT formatting with your utility CD, whatever it is. WinXP Setup is perfectly capable of formatting hard drives :)

1) disconnect from any networks, wired or wireless, so network worms can't attack the computer before it has its firewall enabled and at least Service Pack 2 baseline.

2) remove USB drives, card readers, and any extra HDDs to start with. This makes sure drive letter C: is available for your boot drive, among other things.

3) Get out a real, hologram-topped Microsoft-made WinXP CD and install from that.

4) During installation, on the first run, delete all the existing partitions from the HDD, then press the F3 key twice to EXIT from Windows Setup. Now run WinXP Setup a second time and follow through. This step makes sure you won't have a silly boot menu offering two instances of WinXP to choose from every time you boot up.

5) While WinXP is setting up, use another computer to download the whole Service Pack 2 installation file and burn it to a CD, so you can patch your WinXP installation to SP2 level BEFORE exposing it to a network connection.

6) After WinXP installation, immediately patch it to Service Pack 2 using the CD you made, before installing any drivers. On the reboot, enable Automatic Updates when it asks, and fully enable DEP.

7) Now you can install motherboard drivers, then reboot, then install video drivers and reboot again.

8) Connect to the network, and go straight to Windows Update and get patched up.

9) Install & configure antivirus software, update it, and reboot if necessary. I'd suggest this one: http://www.activevirusshield.com It's a "lite" version of Kaspersky Antivirus 6 and is free for home use. Don't bother with the optional "security toolbar" that you'll see offered during installation, leave it off.
 

Ronin13

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To the OP: I hope you don't mind me going a bit off-topic and asking mechBgon a couple of questions.

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mechBgon, I've used your guide in the past when building a new PC, and as I'm about to start on a new build I found your post above very interesting.

I tried to install the Active Virus Shield you recommend (to see if I want it on my new build), but I get this message: 'Installation ended prematurely because of an error' (I tried about 6 times, trying to install from the file I had downloaded as well as trying to run the program directly from the web site). I checked the FAQ for AVS but nothing about this problem. Do you know how to proceed?

Currently I'm using Avast anti virus (which I uninstalled when trying to install AVS) - if I can't get AVS to work, would you say that Avast is good enough, or would you recommend something else?

For firewall, I'm using Kerio. Should I just go with XP's firewall, or maybe another one?

(Btw, I'm only looking for recommendations on free anti virus and firewall software.)

Thanks for any help!
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Ronin13
To the OP: I hope you don't mind me going a bit off-topic and asking mechBgon a couple of questions.

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mechBgon, I've used your guide in the past when building a new PC, and as I'm about to start on a new build I found your post above very interesting.

I tried to install the Active Virus Shield you recommend (to see if I want it on my new build), but I get this message: 'Installation ended prematurely because of an error' (I tried about 6 times, trying to install from the file I had downloaded as well as trying to run the program directly from the web site). I checked the FAQ for AVS but nothing about this problem. Do you know how to proceed?

Currently I'm using Avast anti virus (which I uninstalled when trying to install AVS) - if I can't get AVS to work, would you say that Avast is good enough, or would you recommend something else?

For firewall, I'm using Kerio. Should I just go with XP's firewall, or maybe another one?

(Btw, I'm only looking for recommendations on free anti virus and firewall software.)

Thanks for any help!
(Avast + common sense + a Limited account + keeping your software updated) would be a pretty solid start. Kaspersky/AVS has hourly updates that can be really valuable against rapidly-evolving malware like Zlob trojans (whee, 16 variants a day) or Warezov email worms.

I haven't tried Kerio so I don't know firsthand about it, but software firewalls are all vulnerable to an "inside job" and/or stuff just using a pre-approved process for their dirty work, so I stick with the Windows Firewall and a locked-down router.

Regarding why it's having errors during installation, check your Event Viewer (right-click My Computer > Manage > Event Viewer) and do any of the events in there seem to relate to the installation failure? :confused:

If this thread seems to vanish, it might've gotten moved to the Software or OS forum since it is ending up to be that kind of thread :D
 

Ronin13

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Regarding why it's having errors during installation, check your Event Viewer (right-click My Computer > Manage > Event Viewer) and do any of the events in there seem to relate to the installation failure? :confused:
I can see the errors logged in the event viewer, and also some 'Information' type entries that say 'Product: Active Virus Shield - Installation operation failed.'

What else am I looking for?

If this thread seems to vanish, it might've gotten moved to the Software or OS forum since it is ending up to be that kind of thread :D
True, that :)

 

Ronin13

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Looking around some more in the Event Viewer, it seems that Windows Defender is stopping the installation. So I turned it off - no luck. Then I uninstalled it (WinDef) - still no luck.

I'll try the Windows Installer you linked to...
 

darkewaffle

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Good news! I don't know if it was the BIOS update or the different install disc, but the install went flawlessly just after my post, actually. Thanks for your tips as well, mechB.

As of now, I only have one issue. For some reason, when I connect my storage drives (Seagate 250gb and a Seagate 300gb, Windows installed on a Raptor 74gb) the Seagate300 shows up as the "System" Disk in Disk Management, and the Raptor is listed as the "Boot" disk. I never looked to see if this was the setup prior to the windows reinstall, but it doesn't really make sense for it to work this way (to me). When only the Raptor is connected, it is both the System and Boot disk, which is probably what I would prefer. Is it possible to change this? Do I really need to?

I made sure that the only connected drive that I could install to was the Raptor when I was installing Windows, and I haven't attempted any sort of 'hot' switching with the drives to resolve this.
 

mechBgon

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You might want to pull everything off the 300GB, delete its partitions and then make a new one and put stuff back. It sounds like it has a boot record on it.