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Windows XP machine stopped booting

Gustavus

Golden Member
A close friend has a computer he built -- some time ago -- on a SOYO SY-P41 motherboard using an Intel Pentium 4 SL68R 2GHz CPU which suddenly stopped booting for him. He is computer savvy so did the obvious things, such as clearing CMOS etc. with no effect. MemTest shows the memory to be fault free. As a troubleshooting aid I formatted a harddrive for him , installed Windows XP with SP3 in a barebones system I have in the lab and went on net -- behind my hardware protected firewall -- and allowed Microsoft to make all of the security and critical updates. I did not install any other software.

He disconnected all of the drives in his computer and connected the drive I had prepared as master -- and the only -- drive. Even though it was probably not necessary he installed a new CR 2032 cell. He cleared the CMOS again. On bootup he gets the usual screen showing system inventory etc. followed by the single beep signaling that the POST has been completed successfully.

Now comes the part where I am asking for help. The next thing that appears is the screen saying the machine failed in the last bootup etc. and giving four as he recalled options -- Boot from last known good configuation, Start in safe mode, Start Windows normally etc. No matter which option is selected, he then gets a black screen and the machine hangs there. First, with the CMOS cleared how does the machine know the last boot failed? Where is that info stored? He has gone into the BIOS and chosen the default settings -- which should have been automatic anyway with CMOS cleared -- with no effect.

I booted several times from the Windows harddrive I gave him so I know the Windows install is good. I wouldn't have been surprised if it detected the slight hardware difference between his machine and my minimal bench machine, but I fully expected it to boot.

Now for the second part of the question. If he sets his machine to boot first from the CDROM and puts in his Windows install CD, the machine does not boot into the Windows setup.

Even though the POST was passed successfully, he has removed the CPU, reseated it and reapplied thermal paste. Not surprisingly this made no difference either. We live quite some distance from each other so it is not easy for me to work on his machine.

From my description of what is happening and of what he and I have done, do any of you have an insight of what could be going on? In particular do you see any way a machine with a cleared CMOS could know a previous (to clearing the CMOS) boot had failed? As far as I can see that is impossible, yet it is happening over and over.

Thanks for the help.
 
Are you able to boot to the windows installation disc after setting first priority to CD?

My guess would be to try and repair/reinstall windows with the hard drive in the computer that's having the problems.

I think that boot info might be stored on the hdd itself, so it's like it is detecting your hard drive and windows install, but just not able to boot for some reason.
 
Thanks for the quick reply nboy22.

No, as I said:
"Now for the second part of the question. If he sets his machine to boot first from the CDROM and puts in his Windows install CD, the machine does not boot into the Windows setup."

The bad boot info could have been on his original harddrive, but should not be on the new one I made after a format and clean install. It is a 40 mile -- each way -- drive for me to get his machine, but I may have to do that. In which case I will check if anything has been modified on the harddrive I prepared for him.
 
A The next thing that appears is the screen saying the machine failed in the last bootup etc. and giving four as he recalled options -- Boot from last known good configuation, Start in safe mode, Start Windows normally etc. No matter which option is selected, he then gets a black screen and the machine hangs there. First, with the CMOS cleared how does the machine know the last boot failed? Where is that info stored? He has gone into the BIOS and chosen the default settings -- which should have been automatic anyway with CMOS cleared -- with no effect.
That information is coming from a hard disk with some portion of Windows installed. It has nothing to do with the BIOS or CMOS.

If the computer isn't booting to the Windows Install CD when the CD-ROM drive is selected as the first boot disk, then:

1) Something's wrong with the Windows CD
or
2) Something's wrong with the CD-ROM drive or the cabling or the disk controller.
 
Thanks RebateMonger

Your and nboy's comments answer my question of where the "failed to boot" info is located. I will drive into the city to check his machine in person, and will take my own Windows install CD plus a new LiteOn reader and new cables. I know my install CD is good and I have plenty of spare hardware. I will even take along a spare Radeon video card which is the only card left in his stripped down machine -- for troubleshooting.

Thanks again for the help.
 
Also examine the motherboard particularly around the CPU socket. Look for bulging capacitors. Boards of this vintage suddenly failing to boot or becoming unstable often have leaking electrolytic capacitors to blame.
 
Also examine the motherboard particularly around the CPU socket. Look for bulging capacitors. Boards of this vintage suddenly failing to boot or becoming unstable often have leaking electrolytic capacitors to blame.

Haha, oh yes that was fun.. One time I had an EpoX mobo and it had a bunch of faulty/leaky caps. I replaced 24 of them with my good old soldering iron and it fired up no problem. There wasn't nothing wrong with it before, but I knew I had to fix the leaky caps or eventually it'd just die anyways.
 
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