I just saw this online somewhere and was wondering what advantages were there to using this at all? Are there any 64bit cpus out already? Have I been hiding in a cave somewhere for too long???
Xcrown
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Windows XP 64bit? what are the advantages???
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Not only for the Itanium, but also for a LOAD of RAM. I did some reading, and part of the requirements is a gig of RAM min. Nice.
Xcrown
Xcrown
I'm not sure about that gig of RAM requirement.
Currently, WinXP 64 bit LE is available to developers only through some special program with Microsoft. For others, it's still too early to even consider.
Those Itanium boxes make wonderful cube heaters.
Currently, WinXP 64 bit LE is available to developers only through some special program with Microsoft. For others, it's still too early to even consider.
Those Itanium boxes make wonderful cube heaters.
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Itanium is on the verge of being discontinued, it doesn't sell. Nobody wants to pay 8000 bucks for a CPU I guess.
Intel may replace it with a different 64 bit cpu based on the x86 series. Nobody remembers, but their original 32 bit cpu
was a departure from the architecture of the 286 series and it was a total flop. When they introduced a 32 bit chip based
on the 16 bit one, called the 386 it was a big success.
As far as advantages, for you, none, unless you know a quick way to port all your software to a 64 bit platform so it runs natively.
Intel may replace it with a different 64 bit cpu based on the x86 series. Nobody remembers, but their original 32 bit cpu
was a departure from the architecture of the 286 series and it was a total flop. When they introduced a 32 bit chip based
on the 16 bit one, called the 386 it was a big success.
As far as advantages, for you, none, unless you know a quick way to port all your software to a 64 bit platform so it runs natively.
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I just saw this online somewhere and was wondering what advantages were there to using this at all? Are there any 64bit cpus out already? Have I been hiding in a cave somewhere for too long???
64-bit CPUs have been out for a very long time, Intel and AMD are late to that game because they focus on consumer products which don't need 64-bit processing. DEC (now Compaq), Sun, HP, SGI, etc all have had 64-bit processors out for many year.
Yes, there are some 64bit cpus out there, but you'll need to sell all the organs in your body just to get one.
That's far from true, I have a 233Mhz Alpha which is 64-bit an a 167Mhz UltraSparc which is 64-bit, both were expensive compared to Intel CPUs but not as much as you think. And I have another 600Mhz Alpha comining in next week with a copy of Win2K RC2, which is the last Windows for Alpha, but it won't be on there very long.
As far as advantages, for you, none, unless you know a quick way to port all your software to a 64 bit platform so it runs natively.
That's why Linux rocks, it and nearly all it's software has already been ported to 64-bit arches =)
64-bit CPUs have been out for a very long time, Intel and AMD are late to that game because they focus on consumer products which don't need 64-bit processing. DEC (now Compaq), Sun, HP, SGI, etc all have had 64-bit processors out for many year.
Yes, there are some 64bit cpus out there, but you'll need to sell all the organs in your body just to get one.
That's far from true, I have a 233Mhz Alpha which is 64-bit an a 167Mhz UltraSparc which is 64-bit, both were expensive compared to Intel CPUs but not as much as you think. And I have another 600Mhz Alpha comining in next week with a copy of Win2K RC2, which is the last Windows for Alpha, but it won't be on there very long.
As far as advantages, for you, none, unless you know a quick way to port all your software to a 64 bit platform so it runs natively.
That's why Linux rocks, it and nearly all it's software has already been ported to 64-bit arches =)
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Earthman, I doubt Intel is gonna discontinue the Itanic anytime soon.
The current version(Merced) won't ever be widely used, but Intel is betting big on the McKinely, Merced was meant to be a demo/development CPU all along.
They've spent far too much time and money on IA-64 to pull back now.
The current version(Merced) won't ever be widely used, but Intel is betting big on the McKinely, Merced was meant to be a demo/development CPU all along.
They've spent far too much time and money on IA-64 to pull back now.
EPIC IA64 is currently a flawed architecture.
I'm not an computer engineer, but from what I've read, EPIC relies heavily on the compiler to properly order instructions, much more so than RISC.
Back when DEC owned Alpha, they published a pretty good whitepaper comparing Alpha vs. IA64.
Some experts are predicting that it will take literally many years for compilers to be highly optimized for EPIC.
Even then, considering that server-side development is leaning toward the JVM and the CLR, which are dynamic runtime environments, static optimization looks like a flawed design.
I'm not an computer engineer, but from what I've read, EPIC relies heavily on the compiler to properly order instructions, much more so than RISC.
Back when DEC owned Alpha, they published a pretty good whitepaper comparing Alpha vs. IA64.
Some experts are predicting that it will take literally many years for compilers to be highly optimized for EPIC.
Even then, considering that server-side development is leaning toward the JVM and the CLR, which are dynamic runtime environments, static optimization looks like a flawed design.
<< EPIC IA64 is currently a flawed architecture.
I'm not an computer engineer, but from what I've read, EPIC relies heavily on the compiler to properly order instructions, much more so than RISC. >>
That's an understatement. The compiler will make or break IA64 and EPIC.
The architecture is overwhelming... I'm still trying to wrap my mind around it. I mean, there are hardware registers called "Not a Thing" bits in there!
WTF is a "Not a Thing" bit!?
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