Windows Vista

[JackMDS]

Vista things to come for the Netowork Guys.

Scroll down there is 13 Docs to choose from.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta...-4ab0-9685-f1bfec1e7d62&displaylang=en

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[spidey07]

Are they still going to have a fubarred IP stack?

<snicker>

nice link

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Are they still going to have a fubarred IP

LOL, I am under NDA I can only comment on what is widely available.:lips:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0905.mspx

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[spidey07]

yep, fubarred.

It's a MS stack, not a RFC compliant stack.

oh well, least their getting better.
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[stash]

Which RFCs are you referring to?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: stash
Which RFCs are you referring to?

all of them.
🙂

specifically TCP, DNS and windowing.

 

[stash]

Interesting, since 2003 SP1 supports ~60 networking RFCs, including TCP, DNS and windowing.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/...-4ff8-a5d4-fc0f94ae7371/TCPIP_2003.doc

 

[spidey07]

Nice. But you and I both know that what they say and what they do are two totally different animals.

I'm not bashing as I'm strictly a network guy and don't get into OSs that much. But I have also talked to MS insiders who say the same thing "yeah, we do it the microsoft way"

Every OS does their own thing with the stack and trying to keep up with every single RFC out there is daunting to say the least. It's kinda like Cisco - they write their own "proprietary" stuff into RFCs and call it a standard. Some standards are just more vendor neutral than others.

I'm sure it has gotten better for MS and I'm looking forward to improvements as they seem to be coming with each revision.

-edit- nice meaty document. thanks!

 

[stash]

Nice. But you and I both know that what they say and what they do are two totally different animals.

😀 Well...yah.

I haven't seen any papers on the new stack with the level of detail of the 2003 paper I linked to, so I can't really say if RFC compliance is any better. I do know that it is a better stack from a performance perspective.

Every OS does their own thing with the stack and trying to keep up with every single RFC out there is daunting to say the least. It's kinda like Cisco - they write their own "proprietary" stuff into RFCs and call it a standard. Some standards are just more vendor neutral than others.

:thumbsup: Very true. RFCs in general are also continually changing. AFAIK, the TCP RFC hasn't changed since it was written (what, late 70s? early 80s?), but there have been a ton of new networking RFCs since then.

-edit- nice meaty document. thanks!

Glad you enjoyed it 🙂