Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium in stock
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Everyone please note that this is the OEM version and not the retail, and thus its license has restricted transfer rights.
Very tempted to buy a copy for my media center PC. I am running Vista RC2 on it right now.
I do plan to slip a new CPU into it when I upgrade my current PC. Will this screw me over? Just moving up from an A64 3000+ to an A64 3700+. I don't see how it would.
And I found a link which gives a features breakdown of the various versions.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx
I do plan to slip a new CPU into it when I upgrade my current PC. Will this screw me over? Just moving up from an A64 3000+ to an A64 3700+. I don't see how it would.
And I found a link which gives a features breakdown of the various versions.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx
I ran Vista RC2 with 2GB memory just fine. Where did you hear of such problem??
As long as your hardware is by some major computer, such as nvidia, ati, creative, they will release 64-bits driver, infact their driver package now consist of both 32-bit and 64-bit under the same installation. If you are with some china OEM webcam or stuffs like that, i think you are S.O.L.
Elixer
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Eh? How you figure that? You will still have 1GB to use. Going from 32 to 64bit doesn't mean automatically that you use up 2x the space.
The problem is that MS wants only *signed* drivers for 64bit. That means you can't use "beta" drivers per se, and that developers must pony up to get them signed. This kills off tons of drivers, by making them too expensive to sign every one of them.
Oh, and going from a 3000 to a 3700 isn't that good of a upgrade. You got a 939 socket mobo? If so, A64X2 or a opteron 1xx series. Prices have been slashed down so you can get a Opteron 170 for under $190, then o/c that even more if you wish.
I said I believe. Not fact, just something I heard probably on a forum. The drivers may not be an issue anymore but they sure were a year ago. I still somehow doubt that they have totally caught up as there are others still complaining about this issue.
I have two systems that are both 754 motherboards. One has a 3000+ and the other has a 3700+ processor. My "upgrade" would involve switching them. I would not actually buy a new CPU that gives that little of a performance boost.
Just because the OS is capable of doing 64-bit operations and data storage doesn't mean software has to use 64-bit data. That would just be stupid and utterly inefficient.
It is true that many applications will use more memory in 64-bit mode than 32-bit mode, but it's definitely not going to be double, and there's no way your memory space gets cut in half.
Totally wrong, but I almost understand why you said it. Memory pointers double in size from 32 bits to 64 bits. This doesn't mean you're using double the memory. Try fact-checking yourself in the future.
You really don't get much benefit from the "64-bitness" of a 64-bit CPU unless you're using > 4gb of RAM or doing lots of math with large ints or floats. However, AMD64 does have more registers than IA32, so you could get benefit from applications compiled for that - but it's usually not going to be very big. Register-starvation is not as big an issue as some folks make it out to be.
I agree with what you say about efficiency, and I've seen some benchmarks to prove it. My response was in reference to available system memory getting chopped in half by the move to a 64-bit OS, which isn't true.
Elixer
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What benchmarks? The application has to be written to support 64bits. Some don't need to be rewritten, it just depends how they designed it. This is the same type of argument when we had 16bit vs 32bit.
In short term, some apps were faster, some were not. Same applies here.
If you do video or other demanding work, then 64bit is what you want. Using a word processor or a browser, then it is overkill.
64bit is here to stay, and then we can have a discussion again when we see 128bit CPUs
the only time 64bit is what you want is when you are using an application designed to take advantage of the 64-bit address space. otherwise you're wasting your time and looking for headaches. this isn't like comparing 16bit to 32bit processors, heck most of these "64-bit" processors aren't even really 64-bit, they just use an emulation layer.
"Why would anyone want to get the 32 bit version is beyond me... "
Even more than that I would say:
Why would anyone want to get *VISTA* is beyond me...
Take $120 (or more) and flush it down the toilet, then handcuff yourself and have your wife kick you in the nuts while screaming ?No HD for YOU!? Ahhhh, the draconian restrictive experience of Vista.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
No thanks, XP is working just fine for me.
Even more than that I would say:
Why would anyone want to get *VISTA* is beyond me...
Take $120 (or more) and flush it down the toilet, then handcuff yourself and have your wife kick you in the nuts while screaming ?No HD for YOU!? Ahhhh, the draconian restrictive experience of Vista.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
No thanks, XP is working just fine for me.
lol, I couldn't agree more. The only thing I have to add is screw Microsoft for making dx10 Vista only... We'll see if it stays that way.
Stick with XP for another year is becomming my mantra. I must train myself to stay away from vista. In a year drivers should be caught up and I am sure many problems fleshed out. I remember the problems upgrading to windows 2K caused with drivers for me. I had to replace my epson scanner (no working drivers), my HP printer they had drivers for but HP said sorry you have to pay us to give you the drivers which we will send on CD, lol. So, I no longer buy anything HP. Some other things but I cant remember what didnt work anymore. Basically rebuilt my pc to accomodate the new OS. Was a bummer since many of the things I had didnt need to be upgraded accept for the drivers issue.
My issue is that they were going to give people both 32 and 64 bit versions originally. With the OEMs you are apparently locked in to one or the other.
I guess I'll spend a few more $$ to get a retail Upgrade license. Sounds like they are a little more flexible on the motherboard updates anyway.
I guess I'll spend a few more $$ to get a retail Upgrade license. Sounds like they are a little more flexible on the motherboard updates anyway.
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