Windows updates, annoying as hell.

[Kibbo]

Ok, I just went to Windows Updates page, downloaded some security thing and installed it.

Now, I told it I will reboot later, because I have a ton of downloads runnng, and I don't want to restart them all at reboot. Probably be done in a couple of hours.

Every ten minutes I get a Nag screen telling me to reboot. It's bugging the piss out of me, and this is not the first time. How do I stop it? Is there a process I can stop from the task manager? How do I keep it from happening again? Is there a setting I can toggle?

Grrr. . .as soon as I can afford a video card upgrade, I'm going to NVidia, and walking away from Windows forever. That won't be for awhile, though. Help keep me sane in the meantime.

 

[stash]

I'm pretty sure you can't disable that. Next time, don't install updates when you are in the middle of something.

 

[Kibbo]

Gahhh!!! I hate Windows!!!!

 

[erikistired]

yeah i hate it when they release updates to try and keep my computer from getting fubar'd as well. damn them! the patch probably needs to update files that are in use, therefore needing to reboot.

 

[Kibbo]

Yes, but they could enable an option to turn off the nag screen. The update is for IE, which I rarely use except for updating my computer. So not enabling it right away is not harming me in any way. They should understand that there are many different kinds of users for their product. If they don't more of us will come on forums like this to find out how to get away from it. I know that my hardware is less than ideal for linux. When that is fixed, I will switch over, specifically because of annoyances like this.

It's pretty stupid to nag medium-advanced users every 30 mins. And it's pretty alienating to mediumadvanced users to not let them disable an annoyng "feature." Make it annoying and stupid to do so, so that only medium-advanced users will take the bother.

Their product annoys me, it's something that could easily annoy others, why the heck can't you see it as a flaw? It's a design flaw.

Note: there is a missing hyphen in that last post. I am leaving it like that because the bloody nag screen came up while I was typing!!!

 

[MrChad]

It's not a design flaw. You chose to install the update. If you don't want to reboot or be nagged about a reboot, wait until you have an opportunity to reboot before installing updates.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: MrChad
It's not a design flaw. You chose to install the update. If you don't want to reboot or be nagged about a reboot, wait until you have an opportunity to reboot before installing updates.

So WHY the fvck do they give you an option to 'reboot later' at all then?

 

[Steve]

Start->Run->Services.msc

Open Automatic Updates, set to Disable.

 

[stash]

He didn't say anything about AU. He manually went to WU and downloaded an update.

 

[scott2608]

This will Disable Security Center.
(Copy into notepad and save the file with a .reg extension)




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

;Disable Security Center
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wscsvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004

;Disable Anti-virus Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"AntiVirusDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Disable Firewall Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"FirewallDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Disable Automatic Updates Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"UpdatesDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Override Antivirus Monitoring
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"AntiVirusOverride"=dword:00000001

;Override Windows Firewall Monitoring
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"FirewallOverride"=dword:00000001

 

[mikecel79]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: MrChad
It's not a design flaw. You chose to install the update. If you don't want to reboot or be nagged about a reboot, wait until you have an opportunity to reboot before installing updates.

So WHY the fvck do they give you an option to 'reboot later' at all then?

Because if you set your Automatic Updates to install automatically at a certain time and you happen to be doing work during that time, it won't reboot on you causing you to lose work. Often users install a patch and then hit reboot later but forget to reboot. The patch is NOT installed until you reboot.

 

[stash]

Originally posted by: scott2608

This will Disable Security Center.
(stuff)

So will this: start, run, services.msc. Stop and disable security center service.

 

[scott2608]

After some experimenting with settings we figured out that the only way (so far) to disable the restart icon and dialogue box after a Windows Update is to disable Windows Automatic Updates. Put a shortcut to Windows Update on your desktop and/or in your favorite folder(s). Please make sure that you look for Windows Updates at least once a week or more if it makes you feel good. Let us know if you find any other ways to get rid of this annoying problem.

 

[Nebben]

I think MrChad works for Microsoft.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Nebben
I think MrChad works for Microsoft.

No, I don't. But I usually play devil's advocate in many of the threads on this forum where the sentiment is overwhelmingly anti-Microsoft.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I always make the assumption that when I do a Windows update that it will make me reboot. So I never do it with anything running in the background. As the others have said you can set it to update when you are not using the computer.

 

[dunkster]

It seems popular and politically-correct to criticize MS and Windows. One popular criticism is security flaws.

The best protection against security flaws is frequent 'critical updates'. If you were evaluating an AV, spyware or firewall program, you would INSIST on frequent updates for best security.

Personally, I credit MS with providing the OPTION to automatically install 'critical updates'. MS is doing the right and responsible thing here - and they are criticized for doing so.

It is an OPTION. If you select that OPTION, whose fault is it that you're irritated by notifications?

I don't work for MS.

 

[w00t]

right clicl on my computer goes into windows properties than automatic updates and turn off.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: MrChad
It's not a design flaw. You chose to install the update. If you don't want to reboot or be nagged about a reboot, wait until you have an opportunity to reboot before installing updates.

So WHY the fvck do they give you an option to 'reboot later' at all then?

A better questions is why do you want to run on a system that isn't fully patched? The system isn't in 1/2 patched state, would you stop a windows install in the middle and expect it to work?

There are problems with not rebooting and thinking your OK. Yes, sometimes it doesn't matter, but when it does the results could be bad. As in you WILL reboot, losing data due to an odd BSOD.

Is it OK to wait for a bit to finish something? Yes.
Is it OK to never reboot after patching? No.
If you force a reboot after the patch. will it be just as annoying? Yes. You can also cause data loss.

So what's left, no forced reboot, can't want to wait forever if the user forgets... You have to give the option to not reboot, yet you should still remind them it's necessary.

 

[spyordie007]

Start->Run->Services.msc

Open Automatic Updates, set to Disable.

This will Disable Security Center.
(Copy into notepad and save the file with a .reg extension)




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

;Disable Security Center
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wscsvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004

;Disable Anti-virus Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"AntiVirusDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Disable Firewall Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"FirewallDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Disable Automatic Updates Notifications
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"UpdatesDisableNotify"=dword:00000001

;Override Antivirus Monitoring
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"AntiVirusOverride"=dword:00000001

;Override Windows Firewall Monitoring
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center]
"FirewallOverride"=dword:00000001

right clicl on my computer goes into windows properties than automatic updates and turn off.

None of these posts have anything to do with the topic at-hand; he manually went to the WU site and installed the updates.

So WHY the fvck do they give you an option to 'reboot later' at all then?

There are plenty of reasons why someone might not want their machine to restart automatically (lets say they have something open and they havent saved their work). This option gives them a way to take more control of when the reboot happens. I think you would like it a lot less if the system *just rebooted* and didnt give you that option.

Generally speaking it's good advice to close down your applications before running ANY installer (whenever possible). You should have waited until you were done working before you installed the updates.