i have a xp hardisk and a 98 SE hardisk, and today when i wanted to type something in Word (in the 98 disk) The computer froze. I figure that microsoft is crap so i rebooted. I ran it again and it froze again. Then i rebooted, and 98 wouldn't boot back up. Then i switched to XP, and xp would boot up, but very very slowly. What's happening? Is it a possible virus? I'm doing a scan right now...
windows super-slow boot up? virus?
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new update: I tried to backup files from my "D" drive to my "C" drive and it said something about windows delay error and data was lost or something... i couldn't scan-disk my hardisk either. When I shut-down and rebooted, my win 98 booted up fine, though when i tried to access any program it freezes. (I tried word, virus scan, all to no avail) When i try to delete stuff under dos it ALSO freezes. I have to reboot, but the file is gone after i reboot. Help please...
Did you mess with the voltage setting for the CPU?
It happened to me that when I went to low with the core voltage that I had those problems
It happened to me that when I went to low with the core voltage that I had those problems
There could be any number of reasons that windows boots up slowly. Perhaps one of the simplest fixes is to "clean out" the registry. There are lots of registry cleaners available, but I feel most comfortable with the one included in Norton Systemworks. There is a post in the Hot Deals forum in which you can find this suite for <$20 shipped. I got mine this way. 
This is much easier than backing up data (which you should do anyway), formatting and reinstalling windows. However, it seemed like I had to do that every 6 months with win95+98, but with some registry maintainance, the same install of win2k had been fine for most of a year. That is, until I got a new hard drive, and had a lot of time on my hands. Would have been fine to just transfer, but I'm retentive like that.
I don't know about windows XP yet-- I expect it'll be similar to win2000.
Could you perhaps post more info about your system, maybe even make part of your signature, just to make it easier?
This is much easier than backing up data (which you should do anyway), formatting and reinstalling windows. However, it seemed like I had to do that every 6 months with win95+98, but with some registry maintainance, the same install of win2k had been fine for most of a year. That is, until I got a new hard drive, and had a lot of time on my hands. Would have been fine to just transfer, but I'm retentive like that.
I don't know about windows XP yet-- I expect it'll be similar to win2000.
Could you perhaps post more info about your system, maybe even make part of your signature, just to make it easier?
it can't be the registry, because i haven't been using windows 98 since i got xp (i'm sorry its just so pretty ) I didn't tweak the voltage, and i didn't downloading anything malicious or install anything recently. The only thing i can think of is that i defragged my windows 98 hardisk with Windows XP's defrag, which uses the NTFS defrag.
and the slow, its not the "wait 30 seconds slow"..... its slow to the point that windows has errors trying to read the hardisk because there's something wrong with the data structure (or something similar) . It gives me a "windows delay error, some data may be lost" kind of stuff. I try to move files, and the thing jus doesn't respond....
i have an epox 8k7a, athlon 1.2 ghz, WD 40 GHZ (98 hardisk) and WD 60 ghz (xp hardisk) both are 7200 rpm.
i also have a kyro 2 prophet 4500, but thats not the problem.
please help
) I didn't tweak the voltage, and i didn't downloading anything malicious or install anything recently. The only thing i can think of is that i defragged my windows 98 hardisk with Windows XP's defrag, which uses the NTFS defrag. and the slow, its not the "wait 30 seconds slow"..... its slow to the point that windows has errors trying to read the hardisk because there's something wrong with the data structure (or something similar) . It gives me a "windows delay error, some data may be lost" kind of stuff. I try to move files, and the thing jus doesn't respond....
i have an epox 8k7a, athlon 1.2 ghz, WD 40 GHZ (98 hardisk) and WD 60 ghz (xp hardisk) both are 7200 rpm.
i also have a kyro 2 prophet 4500, but thats not the problem.
please help
Check the IDE cables. If you have read/write errors, that may be a problem.
Could you try to force your HDs into PIO mode in the bios and see if that takes care of it. Then you would not what the culprit is.
It could be a memory problem as well - if you have two SDRAMs, try removing one.
Could you try to force your HDs into PIO mode in the bios and see if that takes care of it. Then you would not what the culprit is.
It could be a memory problem as well - if you have two SDRAMs, try removing one.
Ok, let me get this straight--- you have a hard disk with windows 98 on it, and it has various apps installed on it, including word, or office, or whatever, and that used to be your only hard drive. Furthermore, it was known as c:\ at the time, to all apps on your computer.
Now you have a new hard disk, running winXP (I really like it, too--wish I had a copy for MY machine), which is known to the pc that it is installed in as c:\ .
It sounds to me as if you have installed the old Win98 HD as a slave, or perhaps as a master disk on your secondary IDE channel, and have managed to set up a dual boot. In that case, booting to windows 98 SHOULD be totally normal, as it won't see the NTFS HD associated with WinXP (provided you use NTFS), and thus the win98 HD is still called c:\ , and all is hunky-dory.
Now, boot into winXP. Your windows 98 drive is now bumped a drive letter (or more, depending on your partition scheme). You try to run winword.exe from your d: (win98) drive, and it doesn't work. That would be because it's looking at your WinXP drive (the c:\ drive in this case) for all of the other files associated with running word. But it can't find any of those files. Same for any other multi-file app. Or how about file extensions not recognized by XP until registry entries are made? Things are starting to get pretty ugly.
Perhaps now, winXP tries to "fix" things, and totally hoses your win98 OS? <---- pure speculation here.
Or it could all be much simpler-- Like RSMemphis posted, bad connection/dying hard drive, possible virus infection, memory issue... you could start by making sure that EVERY connection is good, cards seated properly, drives have jumpers set correctly, BIOS chip is completely in the socket, and so on. How is your power supply?
Just to let you know, I have a 2 week old install of winXP by Dell, and ran Norton Windoctor--- found close to 100 problems with windows and repaired them.
Now you have a new hard disk, running winXP (I really like it, too--wish I had a copy for MY machine), which is known to the pc that it is installed in as c:\ .
It sounds to me as if you have installed the old Win98 HD as a slave, or perhaps as a master disk on your secondary IDE channel, and have managed to set up a dual boot. In that case, booting to windows 98 SHOULD be totally normal, as it won't see the NTFS HD associated with WinXP (provided you use NTFS), and thus the win98 HD is still called c:\ , and all is hunky-dory.
Now, boot into winXP. Your windows 98 drive is now bumped a drive letter (or more, depending on your partition scheme). You try to run winword.exe from your d: (win98) drive, and it doesn't work. That would be because it's looking at your WinXP drive (the c:\ drive in this case) for all of the other files associated with running word. But it can't find any of those files. Same for any other multi-file app. Or how about file extensions not recognized by XP until registry entries are made? Things are starting to get pretty ugly.
Perhaps now, winXP tries to "fix" things, and totally hoses your win98 OS? <---- pure speculation here.
Or it could all be much simpler-- Like RSMemphis posted, bad connection/dying hard drive, possible virus infection, memory issue... you could start by making sure that EVERY connection is good, cards seated properly, drives have jumpers set correctly, BIOS chip is completely in the socket, and so on. How is your power supply?
Just to let you know, I have a 2 week old install of winXP by Dell, and ran Norton Windoctor--- found close to 100 problems with windows and repaired them.
ok... i do have a dual boot, but thats not the problem because i booted from 98 when i tried to run winword, so xp didn't mess around with 98's files.... in fact, i never ran any programs from D:\ (my 98 hard disk) except for watch movies and listen to music from XP. When i do reports (Word) i goto the bios and switch the HDD boot sequence, so it boots 98 first.
The ide cables are fine, they have been working for almost 2 months so i don't think thats the problem. No virus because i didn't d/l anything, and all the movies/music are clean.
It might be the defrag that i did from XP to the 98 disk.... Any good free disk recovery tools i can use? I'm thinking of formatting because there's not much i can do to save the 98 disk at this point. everything reads fine though, i can see everything under dos... thus the boot sector is still there.
The ide cables are fine, they have been working for almost 2 months so i don't think thats the problem. No virus because i didn't d/l anything, and all the movies/music are clean.
It might be the defrag that i did from XP to the 98 disk.... Any good free disk recovery tools i can use? I'm thinking of formatting because there's not much i can do to save the 98 disk at this point. everything reads fine though, i can see everything under dos... thus the boot sector is still there.
I can't see defrag messing up your win98 disk... but then again, I'm just some schmo out in ATland posting my 2 cents... I once managed to corrupt a hard drive in attempting to copy a ~2GB folder of mp3 files to another physical HD. Can't explain why it happened, but the pc locked up (no BSOD) in Win2k and my source drive was no longer readable at all after rebooting. Had to Fdisk and reformat. Oh well... Also, whenever I try to copy any REALLY big file, ie ~1GB, my pc locks up, whether copying to a different partition, different hard drive, or even to a different pc on my network. I hope you find a solution, or at least a reason for your problem, and post it here.
Good luck.
Good luck.
i did eventually find a solution that was not so pleasing.... i can't make any changes to my Win98 Hardisk otherwise it would explode, so i just copied all my files over (copy, not CUT) to my xp disk and it copied perfectly fine. After that, bye bye partition to win 98..... hello blank hardisk.
I was gonna do that sooner or later, but that was a bit TOO soon....
all my data, movies, pictures, saved games, mp3s are all safe, only loss was microsoft word (which i had borrowed from a friend)
but then, we all have wordpad
edit: left out a chunk of info
I was gonna do that sooner or later, but that was a bit TOO soon....
all my data, movies, pictures, saved games, mp3s are all safe, only loss was microsoft word (which i had borrowed from a friend)
but then, we all have wordpad
edit: left out a chunk of info
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