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EKKC

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I am playing with it right now on an extra computer I have. it feels faster than Vista on the same machine (but the previous vista did not have SP1 on it so it's not a fair comparison)

I enabled desktop experience (wmp11, aero theme support, etc turn in on under SERVER MANAGER, FEATURES) and there's no difference from a normal vista. but it feels faster. i may upgrade my main rig, a XP x64 setup, to use Windows 2008 Standard Server x64 now after 2 days of playing around with it.

anyone know how to enable windows sidebar in 2008? if this is even included???
 

stash

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Sidebar is not included in Server. Trust me, it is a much requested feature (mainly for terminal server environments).
 

Blazer

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how large is the foot print after you have it configured, dont no anything about the server side but what little i did see in whs 2003 it would seem that server 2008 could be a strong os for someone with a few pc's around, ms has released some interesting applications lately and seem to be planning for even more.
 

IamDavid

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Stupid question.. What was 2k3 Server based off of? XP or te beginnings of Vista? I had 2k3 server on a PC/server I bought and loved it. Seemed extremely quick and responsive. My dumb ass got rid of 2K3 a while later to instal XP for gaming which was a horible mistake. Not that XP was bad, just was used to 2K3.
 

Dari

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Why would you want to run that as your main operating environment considering many software don't install on servers? What's the point?
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: EKKC
I am playing with it right now on an extra computer I have. it feels faster than Vista on the same machine (but the previous vista did not have SP1 on it so it's not a fair comparison)

:roll: Its the same thing. If it feels faster its because you've installed less bloatware on it.

 

atbnet

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Originally posted by: IamDavid
Stupid question.. What was 2k3 Server based off of? XP or te beginnings of Vista? I had 2k3 server on a PC/server I bought and loved it. Seemed extremely quick and responsive. My dumb ass got rid of 2K3 a while later to instal XP for gaming which was a horible mistake. Not that XP was bad, just was used to 2K3.

In a way it was the beginning of Vista since Vista is based on Windows 2003 Server. Windows 2008 is based off of Vista SP1.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: atbnet
Originally posted by: IamDavid
Stupid question.. What was 2k3 Server based off of? XP or te beginnings of Vista? I had 2k3 server on a PC/server I bought and loved it. Seemed extremely quick and responsive. My dumb ass got rid of 2K3 a while later to instal XP for gaming which was a horible mistake. Not that XP was bad, just was used to 2K3.

In a way it was the beginning of Vista since Vista is based on Windows 2003 Server. Windows 2008 is based off of Vista SP1.

Its more their is one Windows source tree. Windows Sp1 and Server 2008 are the workstation and server snapshots of that tree at the same time. They are 95% the same, the differences are the unique service configurations (e.g. Upnp on workstation, DHCP server on server, etc)
 

EKKC

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and i think XP x64 is based off of the Windows 2003 source code.
confusing eh?
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: EKKC
and i think XP x64 is based off of the Windows 2003 source code.
confusing eh?

Windows 2003 and XP 2P2 are based on roughly the same point in the code tree. This saying once is based off the other misses the point.
 

IamDavid

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
What we need is a flowchart explaining the relationships between these versions of Windows.

that would be neat
 

Canterwood

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Originally posted by: EKKC
and i think XP x64 is based off of the Windows 2003 source code.
confusing eh?

Yup. XP x64 is Server 2003 x64

It even says Version 5.2 SVR_03 in the 'About Windows' screen on XP x64.

They also share the same service pack.

And some folks reckon it was a rushed and unstable product, lol. :D
 

Genx87

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Win2K Professional + Win2K server

Win2K3 + WinXP
Win2K3x64 + WinXP64

Win2008 + Vista

Before that you had WinNT 3.5 with Win 3.1 and WinNT4.0 with Win95\98.

The difference is before 2000 the workstation and server didnt share a codebase.
 

SLEEPER5555

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the way i understand it is

windows nt4 = 4.0
server 2000 = 5.0
win 2000 = 5.0
xp = 5.1
server 2003 = 5.2
xp x64 = 5.2
vista = 6.0
server 2008 = 6.1
vista sp1 = 6.1
 

bsobel

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Yup. XP x64 is Server 2003 x64

Saying XP x64 IS Server 2003 makes as much sense as saying Serve 3003 is XP x64. They are both releases at the same timeline on the Windows family tree, so the code base is shared. However, they are not the same product (the set of features, capabilities and services differs between the two).

XP SP3 looks to be a code branch which would put it AFTER Server 2003 SP2 (btw)