Windows S, now pre-bundled on cheap laptops, the death of "open" Windows platform as we know it.

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234926&ignorebbr=1

Windows 10 S pre-installed. Windows 10 S is the new standard in portable cloud-based operating systems. Windows 10 S is the 100% app based version of Windows 10 where Store apps are verified and designed for superior performance and security.
100% app-based version of Windows? Windows Store "apps" ONLY? Wasn't Windows R, or whatever it was called, for ARM, like this too? And everyone hated it? Because no Win32 support, no "legacy" apps (like the ones that you know and love from the Freeware and Open Source / Free Software world)?

This is Microsoft, testing the waters, to LOCK DOWN WINDOWS, like a CONSOLE GAME BOX.

Next up, requiring a "Windows Live 1 Year Subscription", to play games and run non-freeware apps on their platform. (Speculation, but c'mon, y'all know where this is headed, right?)
 

whm1974

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I certainly wouldn't buy such a device unless I can install other OSes on it.
 

crashtech

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I'll stick to the Pro versions, sounds like the S version will capture quite a few noobs, though.
 

mpo

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I certainly wouldn't buy such a device unless I can install other OSes on it.
Win 10 in S mode allows you to change to a Win 10 Pro license.
 

whm1974

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Win 10 in S mode allows you to change to a Win 10 Pro license.
While that is better then getting stuck with Windows S, I meant non MS OSes.
 

JackMDS

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While I personalty do not care about it.

The responses are Not fare.

You buy an iPad you get IOS.

You buy MacBook you get MacOS (AKA OSX).

You get Tablet you get Android.

You want Desktop you get Linux.

Microsoft made an attempt to give you both in Windows 10.


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mxnerd

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I think Microsoft is trying to fight a battle it can never win.

It tries to create an environment that's like Android or iOS where you can only install APPs from MS Store.

The problem is that as long as MS offer a way to let you go back to desktop mode where you can install and run traditional win32 & win64,

users will always go back to the environment where he/she can have more choices.
 

JackMDS

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@mxnerd. You are right.

That said, MS has a better sense to what hundreds Millions Users want (or ask for) then us the 1% Enthusiasts who spend thousands of $$ on Gaming Machines.

It is not a coincidence that the offer as stated in OP is a $199 ""Something"".:eek:


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mxnerd

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@mxnerd.

It is not a coincidence that the offer as stated in OP is a $199 ""Something"".:eek:


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The price actually is pretty darn good! With a screen, keyboard and a Pro license, it's actually better than many mini PCs that are from China.
 

whm1974

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The price actually is pretty darn good! With a screen, keyboard and a Pro license, it's actually better than many mini PCs that are from China.
But how good is the hardware, and can I install other OSes like Linux on them? I wouldn't be surprised at all if these devices are designed and meant to be replaced every year.
 

mxnerd

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But how good is the hardware, and can I install other OSes like Linux on them? I wouldn't be surprised at all if these devices are designed and meant to be replaced every year.
This kind of hardware is only for lightweight MS OFFICE job and browsing. Don't expect too much.

It's perfect for small business salespersons or fieldworkers who usually only use one or two softwares and most of these software are just used for form filling.

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I don't see why it won't run Linux. The only problem is driver support. And if you want to keep Windows, there will be little space left for Linux.
 
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whm1974

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This kind of hardware is only for lightweight MS OFFICE job and browsing. Don't expect too much.

It's perfect for small business salespersons or fieldworkers who usually only use one or two softwares and most of these software are just used for form filling.

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I don't see why it won't run Linux. The only problem is driver support. And if you want to keep Windows, there will be little space left for Linux.
If I could get one that allows the end user to add a M.2 SSD then I might consider getting one. However that most likely will increase the price.
 

JackMDS

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That would work in a pinch, but how does USB3 compare to eMCC in performance?
When used as an additional storage space I do not see the Speed difference in this case as a Determent.


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Blame the smartphone culture. They want 'apps' in the form of downloading them from some sort of 'app store'. Train a monkey to want X and you get X for the rest of your monkey life.
 
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Windows 10 S is fine.

It's the eMMC storage chip that makes this device junk.
 
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I don't see why it won't run Linux.
I can't get my Lenovo IdeaPad 100S (Red, Bay Trail quad-core Atom, eMMC), to boot a Linux LiveUSB. At all, at least, Mint.
 

mxnerd

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I can't get my Lenovo IdeaPad 100S (Red, Bay Trail quad-core Atom, eMMC), to boot a Linux LiveUSB. At all, at least, Mint.
Someone managed to install Linux Mint 19 on his Ideapad 100S. But no sound.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=275593

== Edit ==

Eventually he installed Lubuntu, since Linux Mint is too heavy.

https://everythingisamiracleblog.wo...stall-lubuntu-on-a-lenovo-ideapad-100s-11iby/

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Never buy Atom based stuff. I used to have an Atom based Acer mini-PC , sold it eventually, all I can say it's a nightmare.
 
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whm1974

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Someone managed to install Linux Mint 19 on his Ideapad 100S. But no sound.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=275593

== Edit ==

Eventually he installed Lubuntu, since Linux Mint is too heavy.

https://everythingisamiracleblog.wo...stall-lubuntu-on-a-lenovo-ideapad-100s-11iby/

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Never buy Atom based stuff. I used to have an Atom based Acer mini-PC , sold it eventually, all I can say it's a nightmare.
I agree, and don't most Atom based devices do not have not enough RAM and storage?
 


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